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well, hmph! I don’t know what to think! i went off to the music store with the powerful motivation to purchase the ‘planet of the apes reimagined’ score. here’s the surprise: they were sold out! okay, the cd contains one lovely paul okenfold remix and then the elf-man. who in the right mind (in my area) would want that but me? should I celebrate that however many copies were there could actually be sold, or remain pissed off that i didn’t get what I had set out for? (then i bought the amelie dvd.. yay!) where are these people who seek elfman scores to tim burton flicks? then again.. they may just want the ‘rule the planet’ remix.. nah..
lexi: I feel happy, though I also feel bad.
I thought you were going to say something like “I met Elfman in a coffee shop, then we made passionate love.”
Bugger, THAT’D be interesting, huh?Maybe all of your cds were sold out, but the scores down here never even COME to the store in the first place. It’s quicker for me just to wait ’till Amazon decides to ship things out. *sighs* I had to wait so farrwittin’ long for my Sleepy Hollow score.
-Em
“How about a cuppa tea, Minster?”
“You better call me ‘Mister.’ Or Michael. I rather like Michael.”
“I didn’t name you after Westminster Abbey for no reason. I didn’t name you Michael, you bloody idiot.”Ah, you poor, poor Elfman-obsessed people (only people like you would want to have sex with Danny Elfman just beacuse he is Danny Elfman
). All kidding aside, I thought that the remix was not NEARLY as good as Deconstruction (which I have an urge to head-bang while I listen to), so I hope that what Miss Match said is not true. In any event, I think it is good that people are finally recognising Elfman, as (in my view) he is the best film composer alive. I still have yet to buy a Elfman score (I can pretty much figure them out anyway), and I NEED to know, are they the originals used from the films, or are they modified? If I could get the original MIDI files and the notes that were done by Elfman (as you hear on the Little Demons – Main Titles piece), that would be even better, because I would prefer to see HIS work, not someone’s version of his work.Knight (Always becoming further sub-merged into the darkness)
an apology, em. I didn’t say the story was interesting, but odd or surprising. sorry to get your hopes up, but i’ll be sure to tell ya.
but why did they have to pick the CD I wanted? the MIIB disc is right there in the new releases next to spider-man. go! go! why must you pick the year-old disc that I want? well, I’m still sick, so I’m cranky.
lexi: “moshing to the breakfast machine?”
“that’s what he said.”
“how come we never thought of that?”
-the leftbrain and me watchin’ pee-wee’s big adventure [ooo with commentary!]HAHAH. No, no, I was actually hoping you WOULDN’T say that. Hahahaha!!!
-Em
“Their heads weren’t found severed. Their heads weren’t found at all.”yes. i’m sure.
lexi: “drip drip.”
“what’s that?”
“the quality of my voice’s sarcasm.”
“ah.”
– leftbrain and me againKnight wrote:
> still have yet to buy a
> Elfman score (I can pretty much figure them out anyway), and
> I NEED to know, are they the originals used from the films,
> or are they modified? If I could get the original MIDI files
> and the notes that were done by Elfman (as you hear on the
> Little Demons – Main Titles piece), that would be even
> better, because I would prefer to see HIS work, not someone’s
> version of his work.All of Elfman’s soundtrack albums are produced by him and all, with the exception of PEE WEE’S BIG ADVENTURE/BACK TO SCHOOL and sections of PLANET OF THE APES, are the exact same recordings that were used in the film.
Ryan
Um, thanks Ryan, but that was not…what I was asking. When I say score, I mean the ACUAL SCORE, not the recording. Meaning the score as in pages with the music notation on them. Sorry for the mix up (and I have almost all Elfman’s CDs
)Knight (The one who acually wants the music)
Wow; I like Elfman and all, but I’d prefer someone a bit uh…nearer my age, y’know? (Why can’t he just revert back to the nifty ‘fro and suspenders years?! It’s not fair!!!) Ahem…sorry.
Knight, I didn’t even know that they sold actual Elfman scores. That would be so cool if they did, but they’d have to cost a pretty penny…
-E (who has met some interesting people at coffee shops…interesting in the good AND bad connotation)
Knight – – haha, I know what you’re saying. If I ever tell a fellow band geek that I have the score to a certain movie, they look at me in wide-eyed astonishment and ask me how I ever got a hold of the score.
Then I just realized how weird some of that must be when you talk about playing film score stuff (like right now my band is playing a direct orchestral transcription of the End Credits to Far and Away, which is the best band thing that’s happened to me in a long time). I’ll use The Cowboys Overture as an example . . . there’s a Cowboys score out there . . . but then the music that the conductor uses is the Cowboys score. So when he asks for the Cowboys score, is he asking for the soundtrack or the sheet music? The sheet music is the score to the score. Does this get really confusing for the conductors for the actual recorded film music? To be using the score to the score and nobody has any idea which one you mean?
Knight – – haha, I know what you’re saying. If I ever tell a fellow band geek that I have the score to a certain movie, they look at me in wide-eyed astonishment and ask me how I ever got a hold of the score.
Then I just realized how weird some of that must be when you talk about playing film score stuff (like right now my band is playing a direct orchestral transcription of the End Credits to Far and Away, which is the best band thing that’s happened to me in a long time). I’ll use The Cowboys Overture as an example . . . there’s a Cowboys score out there . . . but then the music that the conductor uses is the Cowboys score. So when he asks for the Cowboys score, is he asking for the soundtrack or the sheet music? The sheet music is the score to the score. Does this get really confusing for the conductors for the actual recorded film music? To be using the score to the score and nobody has any idea which one you mean?
I know of a place where you can get some actual orchestral scores of John William’s film scores. It’s called his signature series. I just hope that Elfman does something like this, because the only score I’ve been able to find that is even close to the original is the Simpson’s theme for Jazz band (leaving out only the strings). I really would like to write an analysis book about some of Danny’s scores, and might just take the time to listen through some cues and annotate them myself. If anyone else can do this just let me know, and we might delegate certain cues.
Nat
I know of a place where you can get some actual orchestral scores of John William’s film scores. It’s called his signature series. I just hope that Elfman does something like this, because the only score I’ve been able to find that is even close to the original is the Simpson’s theme for Jazz band (leaving out only the strings). I really would like to write an analysis book about some of Danny’s scores, and might just take the time to listen through some cues and annotate them myself. If anyone else can do this just let me know, and we might delegate certain cues.
Nat
Ok, let’s clear this up. Musically speaking, A score is the written music notation. A soundtrack is the recorded score (as it was played), so if you say “I have the SCORE to Batman,” you are saying you have the sheet music to it. If you say, “I have the SOUNDTRACK to Batman,” You are saying you have a recorded version of the score (on CD or whatnot). Everyone got it? Good
Knight (Where are the scores???)
Actually, if you say you have the soundtrack to a movie, you really mean the whole mix of all the sound (sound fx, score, dialogue) that goes along the side of the film – hence the name Sound / Track.
For film score fans (and music fans in general) the terms Original Motion Picture “Soundtrack” and Original Motion Picture “Score” have come to split the types of music into separate categories – songs and instrumental works, it’s that simple and it’s a good way to discern CDs (as if looking at the back is too lazy for you). I own the SCORE to Batman because that is what it says on my CD. Got all that…
Good, now forget everything I said and create your own system!
Nat who will let anarchy reign!
I will now refer to the written scores as manuscripts unless I precede that word with literary, in such case I’m referring to intellectual and creative material put upon a permanent piece of transferable stationary that is encoded with a certain type, either hand written or type through some manner, that is produced using either mechanical or biologically putting writing utensil to the aforementioned piece of transferable permanent stationary.
It’s that simple!
Knight, I’m not laughing at you, I’m finding a way to laugh in your general direction. I hopw you understand that it’s just in fun.
Nat
*Laughing like crazy*, I love it Nat. I said that because (like I said) musically speaking, the score is the written notation and orchestration for a film, and the soundtrack is the recorded median. I checked this with a friend who has thier Doctorate in Music Hostory, and she said I was totally right. But call it what you will (with infomercial like disclaimers), I am fine with it, but STILL! Where are the SCORES?!?!?!
Knight (But the manuscript can also pertain to a story of written word in which would be incorrect and confuse, rather call the scores Bob so that we can all understand it without a problem (but then any Bobs might be confused with a score…ah screw it)
“I checked this with a friend who has thier Doctorate in Music Hostory…”
Wow, man, does this mean that they’re going to start a specialized field called “Music Hosiery,” too? You know, a field where you study the leggings worn by all the music greats…Bach, Beethoven, Mozart…maybe even Danny wears hosiery…or not.
-E (but what is Music Hostory? The study of musical hostages? The study of musical hoses? The study of musical hostels? I must know!!! LOL – all in good fun, Knight…)
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