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Today I received Mars Attacks I had ordered from http://www.screenarchives.com/. It is the complete score!!
)) No wonder it’s very expensive!!The reason why it was expensive was because it was an illegal release. It’s just a professional looking rip of the DVD isolated score track. If you want to support Danny Elfman in any way, you should get the regular release. If you already have it you could have gotten the DVD, but since I guess you didn’t know, it’s not really your fault. It just makes me scratch my head to see an American company sale illegal material that doesn’t respect the composer.
Screen Archives is a great online and mail order CD company that I want to see continue to present an outlet for hard to find promos, and other scores. I don’t think they need to resort to doing that, and they can ultimately get in trouble for doing so. The real funny thing is that the people who make these CDs can make as many as they need to make so there is no inherent rarity value in the price they command.
I’ll get of my soap box now and relieve you from my bitching for now, but let me just say that yes, I own a few “illegal” releases (2 as a matter of fact), but I’ve sworn off them since 2 years ago, and one of them has been replaced with a legitimate release that I bought when It came out, and I would do the same for the other if the opportunity arrived.
Nat who is an admitted thief and will now head back to his cell.
Look…i admire elfman’s craft as much as the next guy…and i obviously don’t like the overcharging of a bootleg score…but hey, why doesn’t elfman just release the complete score on cd anyway? If he did that, There wouldn’t be all this rabid funny business going on…Personally, these bootlegs which usually come right off the dvds i spend money on because someone else has the technology to put it on a disc, whereas i don’t have any of that crap yet. I just see it as paying for someone’s service of copying it for me..because he/she sure as hell isn’t gonna do me any favors..in this country? Hell no.
AWW SH*T!!!! I’m really sorry about this, I thought it was that expensive because it’s out of print… also the site doesn’t show the cover…
I have the DVD and I really want to say that it’s okay for me to have this… this… umm… release
but I guess I still have to hunt the real one… ((I can’t believe that I have to go through the “re-use fees” (the fee to record the score, and an additional fee to release the music on album) lesson again.
The reason why Danny Elfman or any record label can’t release the complete score from MARS ATTACKS! is simple: money. A score recorded in Los Angeles with union musicians is very expensive. They are the best session musicians in the world, and because they are the best, they are paid accordingly for their abilities. A score from MARS ATTACKS!, a flop at the box office and critical drubbed, isn’t going to make anyone rich. Sales of score albums from hit films are relatively small. Imagine how a score from a film that tanks sells? Not well!
Frankly, we’re lucky Atlantic Classics ponied up the cash to release the commercial album. I’m sure they never made their money back. That means they lost money. No one is in the business of losing money. Had they released an album that was 80 minutes long, as opposed to the 40 minute album, they would have lost approximately twice the amount of money.
Now before you go “but SLEEPY HOLLOW is almost 70 minutes long!”, note that it was recorded in London, where there are no re-use fees. So the record company pays a smaller fee, and their financial risk is significantly smaller.
So before we all whine about why we don’t have every note from every Danny Elfman score, we should be greatful for the notes that we do have — and understand why the situation is as it is!
Ryan
Ryan – seriously, thank you for the explanation. I really appreciated it! (Where do you find this stuff? Oh yeah, that’s right, I forgot…you and Cinderella are working for the CIA…except you’re Canadian! What the heck? Man, you do pull some weird stuff – lol!)
All in good fun,
Esad to say it, but collecting cds can get rather expensive therefore i favor a more convenient and affordable medium: MP3.
If you really wanted to support Elfman then every time you download a score or buy a bootleg just send him a few dollars.
We shouldn’t look at buying albums as simply supporting Danny Elfman. We have to look at buying albums as supporting the labels who release them. Labels like Varese Sarabande are doing well, but they’re not filthy rich. The only way they can continue to release albums is if the albums they do release sell well enough.
I’ll never consider someone who downloads Danny Elfman’s music a “fan” of his or film music. I suppose someone who downloads music doesn’t expect to pay for their housing, food or transportation either. Apparently they don’t expect to be paid for the work THEY do either, simple based on the fact that they refuse to pay the artists and labels for THEIR work.
Ryan
im sure elfman has enough dough to keep him comfortable. he doesnt need dam charity.
Elfman doesn’t need charity, but he did the work, so he deserves the royalties that he is entitled too.
Ryan
I am in full support of buying CDs and helping the artists (well the ones I consider artists anyway) despite me hating most of the profit seeking pencil pushers who put us through that Spider-Man debaucle…I will always buy basically anything Danny ELfman sees fit to put his name on…as I will continue to go to Burton films and not sneak in, they have earned my money.
Anyway, my question is…what sort of take does Elfman typically get from his album sales?Okay… damnit,
A WORD TO THE NO-SO-WISE about MP3s…In regards to downloading MP3s, Some Albums go out of print. In those cases people like you go and find someone with a used (but wrapped) copy of the score. In those cases people [like you] will buy them, damning the cost to hell. Might I remind you, buying used means NO money goes to the label [OR THE COMPOSER]. Now, in the cases of a Promotional Releases no money goes to the composer either. It’s basically (as the name suggests) a DISK to Promote the MOVIE (or a hypothetical future release of the SCORE). You find these Promos in places like Ebay (AUCTION SITES). People like you BID on these bobbles extravogantly. PEOPLE like you make a big deal about finding and buying (for large amounts of money–mind you), something that wouldn’t even take two hours for people like me to download.
My point is that sometimes, if people can’t find the album they want (for reasons beyond one’s control), then they can easily TURN to MP3s for almost Certain Salvation. I’m sure that many of you bought The Family Man, Dolores Claiborne or Good Will Hunting Promos for large amounts of money online or over mail and where fairly pleased with the transaction. Well, I download the Score and then I Got the covers [at http://www.cdcovers.cc]. I’m Pleaseb BECAUSE It was all for FREE and the quality hasn’t suffered at all. I NOW have the soundtrack.
And What Is a soundtrack, you ask? Well… Do You Know? Did you say a COPY? Yes! That’s right; you’re a very bright young boy[girl]. It’s a COPY of one DISK, the original Score, a disk that was recorded and mixed before any of your “copies” even exhisted. So What DO I have by downloading it? A Copy. Yes. A Copy.
So, There’s My TWO cents.
PS: I own EVERYTHING elfman has ever put onto CD and even some scores that never where released on there own. I consider myself a DIE-HARD FilmMusic Fanatic. I DID buy mostly all of the Scores (I admit) but I am not ashamed to say that a good portion is from MP3.
If YOU would like to get those desired scores that are not in PRINT or NOT AVAILABLE anymore then Email: jazzdevil@hotmail.com. I’ve uploaded everything I have of Elfman’s (everything that exhists on DISK) onto his FTP site. If you ask him then he’ll set you up an account and you CAN own everything.
I’d like to be a part of that. How do I go about it?
Huh…. Sounds like someone is blissfully unaware of the full extent of the copyright laws. Is there a reward for turning him in?
I rather have the original cd than a crummy compressed mp3 anyday. This is coming from someone who stumbled upon the Good WIll Hunting promo the other day for $4.99 though.
You know what I do when I can’t find an Elfman score, or it doesn’t exist beyond the realm of the actual movie in which it is in? I–horror of horrors–do without. Or I watch the movie, or I listen to something else.
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