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Elfman’s website has updated and has this now listed as an updated projected. Guessing he’s still on it (for now?).
Grim.
I don’t think I’ll be able to listen to his music until more comes out about this.
One important piece of information that’s missing from most of the write-ups this time is that this lady and Abadi have the same lawyer.
I was at the anniversary show last night. Incredible night.
PotA was ditched for a short Wednesday suite. It sounded like a rock concert.
Elfman looked pretty emotional at the audience’s response.
I’d love a release of all the suites for this.
I listened to some Abadi interviews last week when the site was down. I know that we will never really know what happened, but I wanted to know as much as possible. Elfman’s my favourite musician, but people very close to me have survived abuse and I always choose to believe victims first. She comes across as very intelligent, and the survivors group that she created sounds wonderful. All the points she makes about the industry are true.
The interviews I listened to largely corroborate with what was written in the Rolling Stone article. Elfman isn’t referred to by name, obviously, but it’s clear from the context who she is talking about (someone she idolised, a huge name…). She lost contact with a lot of people, including friends, mentors and her therapist, who didn’t believe her. (The Rolling Stone article mentions that some of Adabi’s closest friends didn’t believe her, and they are referred to here.) But her career soon took off in a positive way once she removed herself from the situation. (I noticed on IMDB that she’s worked with Raimi’s wife twice and appeared in Oz, so I can’t help but wonder if that is a lost contact.)
One thing did jump out. In one interview, she alleges that her abuser has done this to ‘many’ other women, specifying it happened to a woman in the 1990s. She says this at 32:35 in the following interview: https://www.ellajarmanpinto.com/beyond-the-chameleon/nomi-abadi
She knows that if the story were to break, there are lot of texts messages that will be used against her as it took her a long time to realise she was being abused.
However, in a subsequent interview, she alleges that she doesn’t know if her abuser has done this to any other women. She says this at 47:55 in the following interview: https://empoweredartistcollective.podbean.com/e/57-composing-for-film-tv-with-nomi-abadi/
So yeah, it’s all very messy.
Even if Elfman were to be able to prove that no abuse took place, he still failed to make payments that he agreed to make. I don’t know legal matters, but that sounds like a hard case to win to me. I guess we’ll have to wait.
Flashback Friday: On the NIGHTBREED set with Clive Barker and Danny Elfman. A photo for the ages! pic.twitter.com/4mT2HyUXku
— Mick Garris & The Post Mortem Podcast (@MickGarrisPM) August 18, 2023
Whenever I hit submit, the page just reloads without my message.
Is there a word limit maybe? It is very long. 😄
Ryan, I’ve tried to post a (quite lengthy) post in the harassment thread. It’s failed four times. Any ideas what might be going on?
I’m with you. Elfman’s response reads really badly. I can’t believe his people approved that.
He has shows in the next week. We’ll see if they go ahead.
Such an awful situation.
Really surprised by the lack of conversation about this online (not just here).
I wonder if this affects Elfman’s upcoming projects. If he gets kicked off Beetlejuice 2, he’s probably finished.
Elfman got two Emmy nominations today. One for the Main Title and one shared with Chris Bacon for the second episode.
I’m glad that they submitted the second episode. The score for the first episode is the best, but it’s the only one that Chris Bacon doesn’t have a ‘Music By’ credit on. I figured they would’ve went for that episode just because Elfman’s a big name. It’s right that, if they were going to get a nomination, it was together.
Burton got a director nomination, too.
Elfman’s theme is used liberally once Keaton enters the movie. Lots of cool versions. I thought Wallfisch did a good job. The mixing is really obnoxious though and makes for a weirdly unpleasant listen.
As much as I love Keaton in this role and I did get a kick out of seeing him, he’s not a character as much as a plot device. He never once felt like a living, breathing person. This isn’t the reclusive weirdo from Burton’s movies even though he’s still reclusive and a weirdo. I dunno. It all felt very insincere.
I enjoyed the movie a lot more before all the multiverse stuff started.
I’m halfway through the audiobook of the book this is based on – Memory – and it is beyond grim. Hard to imagine the score for it, but I’m thinking Girl on the Train as the main character is suffering from memory loss.
As a kid, I just couldn’t get enough of Elfman’s Spider-Man/Peter themes. I still love them, of course, but as I’m listening to this terrific release again, I’m just drawn so much to the Goblin theme. I think it might be my favourite of his villain themes now.
I rewatched the theatrical cut last night for the first time in around 13 years and I was surprised by how much was missing. The music for Decker’s killing scenes is missing, along with the cue for Boone getting run over, the build-up to ‘Meat for the Beast’, the cue for when the police torture one of the breed, a very strange cue for when the priest meets Baphomet and lots of bombastic action from the last half hour (including a cue by Shirley Walker and, significantly, the fight between Boone and Decker).
Nightbreed coming in a few weeks.
In what’s certainly the most exciting news about the movie yet, Willem Dafoe has joined the cast.
I love that Beetlejuice suite, too! That extended build up to the main theme is soooooo good.
I actually think the overall score to Beetlejuice is underrated. Everyone is hung up on the main theme, but I really love the whole thing. The Waiting Room Music is excellent!
I’m kinda fascinated by how Elfman will approach this. The chaos of the original score is worlds away from Elfman’s more ‘musical’ writing these days.
