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I agree with you. This is score is severely underrated and truly one of Elfman’s best in his post-M:I style, much better than what the….uhm, mediocre (to put it diplomatically) film deserved. I wouldn’t say that it was better than Goldsmith’s original, which was far more cutting-edge at the time, but it’s “slicker” and more bombastic in a good way.
TJ
Did you find out who played it and why? Was it some sort of “film screening” of SPIDERMAN in the class next to you, perhaps?
rkeaveney Wrote:
> Yes, but David Newman wrote the score for VINCENTYes, that is what I thought, too, but the credits read “Ken Hilton”. Is that a preudonym?
Alethea Wrote:
> My favorite Elfman Soundtracks are all obveous
> one’s. Despite my love for Elfman i’m vary niave
> to his work. Young and niave, your gonna have to
> help me out. What else does he do? Where do i go
> to listen to it?
> -Alethea age 15Hey Alethea, and welcome. You’re about the same age I was when I got into Elfman’s music. I think you’d better start with the more “easier” ones that don’t have a lot of the “difficult” music he would compose after MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE. So that would be the PEE WEE scores, BATMAN, EDWARD SCISSORHANDS, BLACK BEAUTY and NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS. Or his two latest scores, which in many ways are throwbacks to his old style, namely CORPSE BRIDE and CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY. But perhaps you’re already familiar with these scores.
The best tip I could give you is to seek out the two Elfman compilations out there – MUSIC FOR A DARKENED THEATRE (volumes 1 and 2). They contain lots of themes ouside the most “obvious ones”, as you call them. A great start.
Once you’ve become familiar with Elfman’s film music, there’s also the work he did with 80’s pop band Oingo Boingo which is really cool. But that depends if you’re interested in pop music from the 80’s, of course.
Good luck,
TJ
P.S. the correct spelling of the word “naïve” is, well…”naïve”. And it really means to “take everything for granted” more than it means to don’t know much about something. Just a friendly heads-up
boingomusic Wrote:
> Well, actually, correct me if I’m wrong, but I
> believe the Channel No 5 commercial doesn’t rip
> off Elfman’s music, they just used it, with
> copyright permission. I know it’s not the original
> version, but I think the version used for the
> commercial appears in some film music
> compilation…Actually, that isn’t entirely true. Yes, they may have licenced the piece from one of those Silva compilations (“Choral Classics” or something), but it’s HEAVILY edited in the ad itself, to the extent that the theme is never allowed to come all the way through, even though it’s clearly EDWARD. So why would they licence the piece if they were just going to mess it up anyway?
Nice, although I’ve never really been as enamored by THE FAMILY GUY as THE SIMPSONS. I think the former series is more “American” in nature and consequently doesn’t appeal to us Europeans as much.
By the way, what version of “The Breakfast Machine” was that? It’s not the original soundtrack version.
Dawg Man Wrote:
> Now I see why Elfman did the Nissan ads. He knew
> if he didn’t they’d hire some guy to screw up his
> material and rip him off.Actually, Elfman said that himself in several 90’s interviews, so it’s not like it’s any big news. Here in Norway, we usually don’t have any of the commercials that you have in the US, so I’ve never seen any Elfman-scored ads (or sound-a-likes) on Norwegian screens. However, I’ve downloaded some from the net. The most blatant EDWARD rip-off must be the Chanel No. 5 one.
elfmanguy Wrote:
> What is this ringtone you speak of? I must know
> more about this Elfman ringtone!http://www.cmarket.com/catalog/landingPage.do?vhost=acoauction
But you must not confuse ‘medium’ with ‘genre’. Medium concerns the actual “device” communicating the music. The rock/symphonic fusion you speak of is not a medium, but rather a genre or TYPE of music.
Not to be a wiseass, but the plural of medium is media, not mediums.
As for Danny, he’s done almost every medium there is (in fact, I don’t know any other film composer who has tried out as many media as Elfman). Now he’s even doing a ringtone for cell phones!!!
Yes, but in that case it’s probably just a user who typed it in wrongly. After all, the Windows Media Player database is based on user input, just like imdb.
Cute. Love the part where the the clay monsters play the instruments synched to the “Back to School” tune, and one guy plays the clarinet on his trunk (like in STAR WARS).
Thanks for the clarification – once again! – Ryan. The main point here is that no CD is planned as of yet – neither of the original concert work nor the IMAX adaptation. So we just have to be patient.
Yes, but that report is from the IMAX adaptation of the concert work, and NOT the original concert work as it was performed in Carnegie Hall.
If they could pull off an EDWARD SCISSORHANDS ballett (without the direct involvement of either Burton or Elfman), I’m sure they could pull off a BATMAN musical as well.
The IMAX score adaptation has obviously been recorded for use in the film itself. I don’t think the original concert work has been recorded yet.
As for a CD release of either of these two versions, I’m not sure. We were discussing this very same matter in the thread just below this one.
Yes, but I can still see where Weepy Donut is coming from. The score isn’t fully original, and although many “practical” concerns made it easier to do it this way (get the work recorded etc.) and although the music may fit like a glove nonetheless, there’s still the question of “divine inspiration” – so to speak – that was missing.
I see this for what it is….an interesting experiment…..but I would of course have preferred a wholly original score.
TJ
Well, weird or not, it seems like someone just used Burton’s and Elfman’s name as a selling point for their CD. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Elfman’s music, has it?
