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Don’t pay any attention to it. I know most of you already did so anyway, but for the record, it wasn’t just Boingo that they bashed.
My personal all-time fave band ever, Primus, was number 22, just ahead of Creed. Let me repeat that. THEY THINK PRIMUS IS WORSE THAN CREED.
Also on the list were Skinny Puppy, one of the most innovative and influential bands ever, and The freaking Doors (that one just baffles me). The publishers and editors of Blender should all be asphyxiated while their families get their entrails ripped out with a spoon.
Burt
The Doors were on “the list?!” Yeah, Burt, I’ll agree with being baffled on that one. Sorry kids, Blender’s list just doesn’t light my fire…but Harvey Danger does
They’re slowly edging Boingo out of the #1 spot on “all-time favorite bands” list.-E
I haven’t seen the entire list just yet, but from what I hear, so far it seems somewhat agreeable. Primus, The Doors, Creed, and Oingo Boingo seem to fit on that list PERFECTLY. If anyone really know what true music is, they’d agree with me. Anyone else feel the same?
Master P is on the list too??? WTF????
On the same list with Yanni and Kenny G – how funny is that.
As I said in the earlier post, I have everyone beat because a band I like is #2!
“Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends everybody must attend – come inside, some inside!ELP forever (at least Emerson forever)!
Nat (who thinks Oingo Boingo making the list is not necessarily a bad thing at all)
Let your Freak-flag Fly!I can understand where they’re coming from. Primus is great, but the singer’s voice is laughable. The Doors are great, but they had no bass player and they were very “strange”. Creed just sucks, and would be #1 on my list of the worst bands. And Oingo Boingo is great, but you gotta admit they’re a little cheesy.
It’s not really about the vocals with Primus. (I’m going to try really hard to not let my Primus fan-status influence this post.)
Ask most bass players from the last ten or twelve years and they’ll tell you that Les Claypool is one of the most idiosyncratic and, frankly, unique bassists to come around in a while. Primus, whichever lineup you choose, has always been more about the musicianship than anything else. No, they’re not as accomplished at the technical craft of songwriting as, say, The Beatles, Neil Young or many others, but I think they kind of eliminate the need to be so based on the fact that they’re perfectly willing to just be themselves as musicians and if the audience doesn’t like it, oh well.
That said, I can see how you’d dislike ’em if your idea of a great band includes top-notch singing. Even when Claypool tries to actually sing, he’s not all that good at it. But like I said, I don’t think it matters that much.
And Jay, you’re probably voicing that opinion on the wrong board, dude.
Burt (Okay, I failed miserably in my attempt to not come off as a Primus fanboy. Sue me)
I’m kinda proud Boingo made it onto that list, (although most of the stuff on there actually does suck in my opinion). I just keep reminding myself that it was the worst reviews Boingo always kept, not the best ones, so it’s sort of like “one more for the collection”. They never cared, in fact they were proud to be loathed by critics, so I try and look at it the same way. I even bought the magazine just because they’re on the list, and I’m hoping to get their part blown up to frame it. I feel sorry for people who can’t appreciate them. It does piss me off a little because in a way insulting the band insults those who love them, but mostly it just amuses me that people think they get it but don’t and saddens me that they probably never will.
Maybe I’ll start a charity out-reach program for the Boingo-deficient.
(I think the most important thing that came out of it, was that Mr. Dantz stated he likes Boy George–and then all up and tries to deny it. The nerve)!
You can read all the articles you want, and interviews and such. But what really counts is what you like. I don’t think people fall for something because of what other people say–at least I hope they don’t.
Basically the list (which I haven’t seen, and probably never will) is just someone else’s opinion. I mean, we could all make our own lists, and it’d mean just as much–something to us, and nothing to everybody else. So I wouldn’t think too much on it.
Im sure the list was put together by the voices of many people. They wouldn’t just slap together some list for the sake of having an article in their magazine. Blender is funded by mainstream music so they can have a giant picture of Christina Agulara on their cover, or what have you, but I’d like to believe that the writers do not let things like that influence the articles they release.
And Cowboy Man… there would be no point to having a discussion board if everybody felt the same way about a certain issue, hence the reason for DISCUSSING it.
Side note : I love Keith Emmerson, but I hate ELP.The band has been extinct for almost 8 years now. I think it’s pretty cool that they’re getting any press at all.
For anyone who didn’t see it, the whole list:
1. Insane Clown Posse
2. Emerson, Lake and Palmer
3. Michael Bolton
4. Kenny G
5. Starship
6. Kansas
7. Asia
8. Vanilla Ice
9. Lee Greenwood
10. Air Supply
11. Latoya Jackson
12. Tin Machine
13. Mick Jagger
14. Yngwie Malmsteen
15. Yanni
16. Oingo Boingo
17. Benzino
18. Pat Boone
19. Dan Fogelberg
20. Howard Jones
21. The Alan Parsons Project
22. Primus
23. Creed
24. Bad English
25. Jamiroquai
26. Celine Dion
27. Colour Me Bad
28. Crash Test Dummies
29. Skinny Puppy
30. Richard Marx
31. Arrested Development
32. The Hooters
33. Japan
34. Live
35. Paul Oakenfold
36. 98 Degrees
37. The Doors
38. Nelson
39. Bob Geldof
40. Blind Melon
41. Whitesnake
42. Rick Wakeman
43. Mike and the Mechanics
44. Manowar
45. Gipsy Kings
46. The Spin Doctors
47. Goo Goo Dolls
48. Master P
49. Toad the Wet Sprocket
50. Iron ButterflyI hear ya Jay, I’m just saying that most of the people on an Elfman board probably won’t agree with you that Boingo sucks, that’s all.
Burt
“I think the most important thing that came out of it, was that Mr. Dantz stated he likes Boy George–and then all up and tries to deny it. The nerve”
Hey, I swear, I have no idea who that guy is!
And where the hell is Eminem on that list?! #1 on mine.
“Side note : I love Keith Emmerson, but I hate ELP.”
Hey Jay, personally I like EP not ELP.And I was hoping that Randy Newman would be on the list because I love him, and very few people I know do. He should have been on the list!
Nat
Insane Clown Posse, Jamiroquai, Crash Test Dummies, Blind Melon, Gipsy Kings, Toad the Wet Sprocket…
Okay, now we (me vs. the “no-talent ass clown” at Blender) have issues. Yes, I like Jamiroquai. (I enjoy the hat in the “Virtual Insanity” video). And – horror of horrors – I ALSO like Journey, Boston and Madonna (in all her various reincarnations. Yep, that’s right: I dig the urban cowboy look she’s currently sporting). 70s Corporate Power Rock is my guilty pleasure, baby!
-E (ready, aim…)
What the!? Crash Test Dummies is on that list?!! Man, that’s messed up beyond words, I tell you.
Arrested Development? Paul Oakenfold? Live? Primus? Oingo Boingo? Goo Goo Dolls? What the hell is wrong with these people?
**** Blender.
Speaking of Crash Test Dummies, as anyone else hear Joe Jackson’s CD “Heaven & Hell”? It’s a setting of all the 7 deadly sins to art-song treatments, and my favorite one is “Passacaglia/ A Bud And A Slice (sloth)” sung by Brad Roberts of Crash Test Dummies and features a Bassoon duet that is hypnotic. His voice is perfect to convey sloth.
Nat
Now wait a minute.!!! I happen to own music from 60-70% of those on the list. How did Celine Dion get on that list? If she’s so unpopular how did she get to sing in the olympics, and for that matter, have a friggin bunches of millions of dollars contract in Las Vegas!!!!! And the older generation would take offense to having Yanni on that list as he’s very popular. This list is so correct. Not
Oops. I meant………NOT!!!!!!!!
Pah! See, everyone has different opinions to what sucks and what doesn’t. And, even if several people are a part of the list, it’s still the same premise, only it’s a bunch of different people being opinionated, instead of just one.
Anyways, I wouldn’t get my panties in a bunch or anything–if you like music that’s on the list, everything’s saucy. I mean, it doesn’t mean you have to stop listening to the music, or that it’s never-ever gonna be heard or played again. It just means that they needed some space to fill in a magazine. No big deal, really.
Apparently, Blender has no problem with completely unsubstantive music like boy bands and bubble-gum pop, or just plain awful **** like Limp Bizkit, but they’ll but bands like Oingo Boingo, Primus, Blind Melon, and Live on the list?! (Granted, Live’s last couple of albums have sucked very badly, but their first few are some really great music.)
That’s just nonsense. These people clearly have no idea what they’re talking about. There’s no real rhyme or reason to the list, and the don’t seem to give any real reasons for their opinions (if the Boingo entry is any indication).
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