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- May 15, 2004 at 1:33 am #36583
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GuestHey, anyone else notice one of the Beetlejuice motifs in Family Dog from MfaDT Vol. 2? Track #20 at about 0:39.
May 15, 2004 at 4:09 am #50114Anonymous
GuestThey’re both written like a Russian dance. Check out the “Sabre Dance” if you haven’t heard it yet, I think you (and other Elfman fans) would really enjoy it. Of course, if anybody cares at all, Nino Rota’s score for 8 1/2 also has a wonderful Russian dance-like theme, “Carlotta’s Gallop.”
Dylan
May 15, 2004 at 4:11 am #50115Anonymous
GuestBTW, I absolutely adore the bouncy um-da um-da of the Russian dances and the aforementioned scores…it’s just amazing. Absolutely brilliant for Rota and Elfman to put it in a score for a comic and/or surreal narrative. You also might be interested in James Horner’s “Honey I Shrunk the Kids” and Carter Burwell’s “The Hudsucker Proxy,” just to name a few more film scores with Russian dance-inspired cues.
May 15, 2004 at 9:18 pm #50117Anonymous
GuestAhhhhhhh! No more Horner plugs!!!
Knight (Who laughed like crazy when he heard the same chord progression from A Beatiful Mind and Bicentennial Man in House of Sand and Fog which, AGAIN, was nominated for best ORIGINAL score)
May 15, 2004 at 11:59 pm #50119Anonymous
Guestdon’t forget, of course, Titanic
May 16, 2004 at 7:20 am #50122Anonymous
GuestI think that I read somewhere that “Honey I Shrunk the Kids” was caught up in litigation over the unauthorized use of the song “Powerhouse” by Raymond Scott (it was the theme used during the opening credits), and so it was never released.
Is that just a rumor or is it true?
Nat
May 16, 2004 at 2:43 pm #50123Anonymous
GuestTrue.
May 16, 2004 at 6:41 pm #50125Anonymous
GuestWell, Disney was sued by Nino Rota’s estate for the use of part of the theme from the film “Amarcord,” but Disney and the Rota estate settled with giving Rota credit in the end credits under “Songs” (interestingly enough, the part of the Amarcord theme Horner didn’t use was used by Jon Brion for “Punch-Drunk Love,” another great score, but he wasn’t sued). Raymond Scott, however, got no credit, but it is most certainly Powerhouse Horner is using here. It’s truly a wonderful score though, and I’m not even a Horner fan (but I am a Rota purist and obsessive collector, and I think what Horner did was fantastic).
Anyway, so yeah, Russian dances!
Dylan
May 16, 2004 at 6:41 pm #50126Anonymous
GuestWell, Disney was sued by Nino Rota’s estate for the use of part of the theme from the film “Amarcord,” but Disney and the Rota estate settled with giving Rota credit in the end credits under “Songs” (interestingly enough, the part of the Amarcord theme Horner didn’t use was used by Jon Brion for “Punch-Drunk Love,” another great score, but he wasn’t sued). Raymond Scott, however, got no credit, but it is most certainly Powerhouse Horner is using here. It’s truly a wonderful score though, and I’m not even a Horner fan (but I am a Rota purist and obsessive collector, and I think what Horner did was fantastic).
Anyway, so yeah, Russian dances!
Dylan
May 16, 2004 at 8:26 pm #50127Anonymous
Guest“Anyway, so yeah, Russian dances!”
Um…no.
Anyway, so yeah, uh…Beetlejuice in Amazing Stories. I just noticed that the motif was exactly the same. So, uh…right. Yeah.
May 16, 2004 at 8:59 pm #50128Anonymous
GuestRead my first response….ah **** it’s hopeless. Yes, the motif is the same. But it originated from Russian dances but nobody cares. Yay!
May 17, 2004 at 4:07 am #50129Anonymous
Guest“So, uh…right. Yeah”
Um…no.
May 17, 2004 at 4:56 am #50130Anonymous
Guest?_?
OK. Whatever.
Yes, I like Russian dances, too. I played a piano piece a while ago that had that Russian feel to it. I’d tell you what it is but I’m too lazy to find it right now. Maybe tomorrow.

Sorry for being such a dork in my earlier post. I was in kind of a bad mood.
May 17, 2004 at 8:01 pm #50137Anonymous
GuestYou are forgiven.
May 19, 2004 at 9:04 pm #50177Anonymous
GuestNow I’ve got some more scores that I have to check out. Thanks. This has been the first decent post I have read in a long while (thus I haven’t been checking in the last three days or so).
In defense of Horner (however), though I am not really much of a fan (I HATED Titanic), you have to admire the quantity of sh*% that he continues to sell film studios. And, his work is all of decent quality, but then it all would be, seeing as it all sounds relatively the same.
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