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  • #100108
    ddddeeee
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    Do you guys think this could be our last Elfman score?

    #100109
    DannyBiker
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    It’s hard to say because he had already slowed down the pace on his film music scoring activities since the late 2010s, regardless of the accusations. We won’t have 4 scores a year though, that’s for sure. No matter what, we are entering the last years of his career.

    To go back to the topic, it looks like tomorrow’s release is going to be mostly songs from the film + 2 Elfman tracks (Main/End Titles).

    #100110
    Monsterhead
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    Those two tracks are something special. Reminds me of the some of the best parts of his DARK SHADOWS soundtrack, mixed of course, with the spirit of the original BEETLEJUICE.

    Accusations be damned, I remain Team Elfman and love listening to his new works. But I agree with Ryan, his absence from the film’s promotion feels intentional. I think his lack of output over the past few years speaks more for the way that the industry has changed. Do we know anything more about THE ACTOR or RHONA WHO LIVES BY THE RIVER? Updates on both of those projects have been eerily quiet.

    #100111
    ddddeeee
    Participant

    My gut says that The Actor didn’t work out though there has been radio silence on that movie.

    Elfman was spotted at a place where they film stop-motion projects. I would presume this is for Rhona.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWeeknd/comments/1f8h7l6/behind_the_scenes_of_the_upcoming_baby_abel_stop/

    #100112
    Ryan Keaveney
    Keymaster

    It’s been two years since White Noise, and no new projects announced. His name has been in almost every review I’ve read of the film, but no score album announcement. Hollywood has a way of pushing problematic creatives out, only to welcome them back later. So I don’t think it’s the end of the line for Danny—I just think there’s not a lot of heat on him right now. That might be symptomatic of the entire industry, as there are so few notable scores so far this year, I’d be hard pressed to name five of them!

    #100117
    ddddeeee
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    I enjoyed the movie, but I don’t know if I’ve ever been more disappointed by a score in a movie. Elfman is given almost nothing to do. It reminded me of Big Eyes, to be honest.

    Only a handful of cues made an impression, and most of those felt like riffs on cues from the original. All the quirk and colours were gone.

    #100118
    Ryan Keaveney
    Keymaster

    Interesting—this isn’t the first time someone has felt the music lacked room to operate.

    Considering Elfman was absent entirely from the promotion of the pic, is it possible a rift formed over this film and his scoring opportunities? Like, did he not align with Burton on the score’s scope? Are we looking at Burton’s next film being scored by someone else?

    I hate to speculate like this because, in my sad mind, I have a fantasy that Elfman reads this forum and gets royally pissed when people gossip like this.

    #100119
    ddddeeee
    Participant

    I’d be surprised if Burton wasn’t temp-track obsessed with this one.

    The best and most impactful cue is by another composer!

    There was a cool cue for an awesome flashback sequence at least…

    #100120
    Ryan Keaveney
    Keymaster

    Elfman hasn’t posted about BJBJ on Twitter or Instagram. His last BJ-related tweet was from October 2023 to promote the re-release of the OST on glow-in-the-dark vinyl.

    #100121
    ddddeeee
    Participant

    To be fair, he didn’t promote his Percussion Concerto/Wunderkammer release bar reposting Sony Classical once.

    #100123
    ddddeeee
    Participant

    Just remembered the Gramophone interview in which Elfman mentioned recording 45 cues for Beetlejuice 2.

    I may well be wrong, but I don’t think there’s anywhere near that in the movie.

    I’m seeing it again tomorrow.

    #100124
    Ryan Keaveney
    Keymaster

    I saw a late afternoon showing… still processing this absolute nothing burger of a film score. A follow up to one of Danny’s most memorable scores and he’s given no room to play. You hear maybe three cues (not including the Bava riff) and anything else is absolutely buried. Just a crushing disappointment.

    #100125
    ddddeeee
    Participant

    Astrid exploring the town and the dream sequence near the end were ripe opportunities to really establish a theme for her.

    I really think this was all Burton. A mix of temp track love and wanting to make the movie as 70s in vibe as he could.

    #100126
    ddddeeee
    Participant

    I saw it again, and there probably are 45 starts in there. They’re all just so non-descript you wouldn’t notice.

    Major bummer, but this is at least a Burton movie that’s good and successful. I guess we can’t have everything.

    I wonder if they’re on good terms after this.

    #100127
    Ryan Keaveney
    Keymaster

    I’m mellowing after my initial reactions to the film. It’s not the films fault it wasn’t the movie I’d built up in my head. Fingers crossed if the score gets released there are some used bonus tracks.

    Not sure if it’s a bad sign but the score was recorded in London and LA. Those LA sessions could have been last minute rescoring and replacements making this entire thing so frustrating.

    #100128
    DannyBiker
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    I don’t get how Dumbo can get such a wonderful treatment from him while a sequel to Beetlejuice falls flat. I still haven’t seen the film (I’ll wait for streaming) but it’s quite sad to read. 🙁

    #100129
    ddddeeee
    Participant

    I love Dumbo, too. Really underrated score with a gorgeous main theme.

    I said on another forum that it’s so weird having a blah score to a good Burton movie when normally Elfman’s the one overcompensating. I think this is the first time the score doesn’t (isn’t allowed to) live up to the movie.

    #100130
    DannyBiker
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    Can we also talk about how bad the opening of the Main Titles is ? The mix is awful, even after quite a few listens, I still can’t figure out what I’m listening to. It gets better as the track starts and the theme kicks in, but those 20-30 first seconds feel like a first draft that somehow made it into the final product.

    #100131
    ddddeeee
    Participant

    It’s missing the overlay of Donna Summer’s cover of MacArthur Park. It plays over the score like how Day-O does in the original.

    Hearing the main title was such a blast in the cinema. Everyone was bobbing along.

    There’s a fun cue during which Beetlejuice sucks everyone into their phones. Felt like Elfman was allowed to play for just a few seconds.

    #100133
    Ryan Keaveney
    Keymaster

    I don’t mind the mix—it starts off like a bit in the Dark Shadows sonic world. The plinkety ethnic percussion is pure Boingo before those two big notes (electric guitar?) The brass on the left does sound a like a sample.

    I’m really bummed about this no score album news. My hope was we’d get new material even if it wasn’t in the film. I guess we’ll have to wait until it slowly filters out to the collector community.

    #100134
    DannyBiker
    Participant

    Waxwork Records will release this on Vinyl/CD, although no tracklisting is available : https://waxworkrecords.com/collections/cd/products/beetlejuice-beetlejuice-cd

    #100135
    Ryan Keaveney
    Keymaster

    I’m going with a wild theory here that Danny only wrote the main and end titles — perhaps the Dolores flashback, but that’s it — despite that interview from earlier.

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