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I know this seems only to be another forum rumour (here’s the address, if ya wanna:
http://www.dtheatre.com/read.php?sid=2032 )
but I’ve read here that burton might be using Lucas’s Industrial Light & Magic to create the Oompa Loompas in Willy Wonka!! in my opinion, this would be a disastrous blow to Burton’s style! I kneel and pray that he doesn’t use CGI – he’s done so well without it for so long… infact, I reckon he’d do well to have midgets (or is it dwarves – I can never remember which one) playing the Oompas… it worked well enough in the original. Also, another interesting thought someone brought up on that forum was for Burton to play Wonka himself – I have to say, he does kinda look the part, with his messy jet black hair and dazed disposition… He’d make the perfect Burtonesque Wonka!
But, anyway – whadwe think bout the CGI? :os
>:o)
The JWhatever Tim thinks works will work for me. But I hope he doesn’t use CGI.
Didn’t he use CGI in POTA and Sleepy Hollow, as well as Mars Attacks? Computers are just another tool (just like stop-motion animation), it all depends on how you use them.
Nat
Yes, CGI is a tool, but full-fledged characters created in computers still kinda have that CGI look. The Hulk was PAINFULLY CGI, and so were the Martians in Mars Attacks! (but it was excusable there due to the mockery of the whole movie).
I think CGI would be a BIG mistake, at this point in our technological abilities.
The only reason people can spot CGI is because they know it’s CGI beforehand. There’s no “magic of the movies” anymore. Not when you have constant “how did they do that?” articles in EW, entire mags like American Cinematographer and Cinefex devoted to SPFX, etc.
CGI offers more flexibility to filmmakers. Go for it.
Ryan
Coincidentally, I’m doing a report on CGI in school. I looked up ILM and there was a list of all the movies they’ve worked on, and i noticed more Tim Burton movies than I thought there would be. I also read that it took a little while to convince Tim Burton to go with ILM for Mars Attacks! because he wanted to go with his tradiional stop-motion characters for the movie, but finally decided to go CGI. Okay, they were supposed to be fakey in that movie, it was neat. Sleepy Hollow had some needed CGI that made the movie better, and POTA just had some that was necessary. Now for Willy Wonka, I don’t think it would be wise to put in CGI for the Oompa Loompas, because they would be the focus of the movie, just as the Hulk was in “The Hulk.” besides, didn’t we all love the oopma loompas in the original willy wonka? They were so cool! He should just go with real midgets. The role of the midget in the movie community has grown so much over the years, and it seems that few movies are made without midgets in them. Funny thing is that most of them are good actors, at least from what I’ve seen. Go with midgets, Tim!!!
Weren’t they pygmies in the novel? VERY, very small pygmies from Africa? I’m sure they’ll drop the whole Africa idea now though, being the PC world we live in.
why use CGI when there’s midget actors like Warwick Davis!!
It’s going to be very funny when nearly everyone here changes their opinion after seeing how very cleverly Burton uses CGI oompa loompas.
-+>Joe Evans
I was thinking about that too DarkKnight.
They might need ILM to do the same thing that WETA did for Lord Of The Rings: take regular actors and shrink them in a computer (along with other traditional methods) and have little people stand-ins for long shots. The computer doesn’t have to create a character; it can be used to augment real life.Ryan’s point was well made as well. When you watch a Ray Harryhausen movie, all the stop-motion sticks out (even more so than some CGI). And I think CGI has come a long way. I remember walking out of Jurassic Park grinning from ear to ear, because I felt that I had just seen a dinosaur (many in fact). And I could now imagine a T-Rex walking down the street with such clarity. The biggest problem with CGI is that with the released dates they have to meet, they can’t give the proper attention certain scenes need, and so they fall flat (example: the end of The Mummy Returns).
Nat
“Whatever Tim thinks works will work for me. But I hope he doesn’t use CGI.”
… But what if Burton wants the oompa loompas to do backflips and swing from chandeliers?
“… But what if Burton wants the oompa loompas to do backflips
and swing from chandeliers?”Then Burton could get some stunt-midgets. Anyway, don’t be flippant, Mr. Dantz. (On second thoughts… damn I hope Tim DOES have back-flipping chandelier-swinging Oompas!… only within context, of course)
>:o)
The J
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