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I think it worked very well.
Don’t go into the film expecting straight ahead filmmaking. Ang Lee publishes a new film language here, and a lot of this film relies on symbolism and imagery (try the climactic battle for instance!)
I think SPIDER-MAN and BATMAN remain as the two best comic-book movies, though HULK is a great “film”.
Strange indeed…
Ryan
Batman, yes, a classic. But Spider-Man?
Spider-Man was so irritatingly awful (the movie, I did enjoy Elfman’s music). It was a major disappointment, coming from one of my favorite directors and one of my favorite writers (David Koepp, who, on an unrelated subject, is presently writing and directing an adaptation of a Stephen King novella.)
I haven’t seen The Hulk yet, and all I’ve heard from the score are the samples on this site. I’ll probably go see it tomorrow.
I thought Raimi’s Spider-man was right up there, but Burton’s Batman was better. I usually don’t like superhero films but those ones where awesome (and I hope Hulk is the same). I am not going to see the film until wed. though because I am going with my friend who lives out of town. Anyway, please don’t spoil the film in here!!! I read these things!!!
Knight (I will say that the new previews of the Hulk (the accual CGI creation) look MUCH better than the first ones I saw, even though the backing song “Set me Free” has to be one of the worst songs I have ever heard IMHO)
David Koepp was the only credited screenwriter. The final product is said to be a stew made up of the work of five different writers. James Schamus, the producer of ‘Hulk,’ is the sole screenwriter of the film, yet had to share credit with others due to a WGA ruling. Funny double standard, eh?
think batman returns is the best myself
suprisingly the middle eastern theme variant served the hulk’s leaping scene in the canyon very well, reminded me of spidey swinging in times square after saving mj, similar. the action music in the film blends w/ the onscreen images perfectly, though I wish there was more action in it! the cross-cutting of every scene was annoying, w/ the split screen editing, dear god, it was like watching MSNBC. even though the main titles didnt explode w/ a high octane main theme, people did however cheer the quiet lab theme when the marvel logo popped up evoking fond memories of last year’s superior spidey
Batman was good, but Spider-man was a wasn’t good at all. If you want to see a good comic book movie you should see X2.
I agree with X2 (although I haven’t seen Hulk yet). But my favorite Comic Book / Graphic Novel adaptation for film is ROAD TO PERDITION. And I still have a love for SUPERMAN THE MOVIE because I grew up with that (I remember seeing SUPERMAN 3 three times in a local theater, but then again I did also see KARATE KID 2 three times as well). If any one was ever chosen correctly for a role in any comic book movie is was Reeves as Superman (although Hugh Jackman as Wolverine was a coo, after the original choice had to leave).
Nat
And I just don’t know how UNBREAKABLE would fit in there because it’s not taken from a preexisting comic, but it’s high up on my list as well.
Just saw The Hulk and I have to say that I enjoyed it. It started off a little slow, too much talk. But once it started going it got good. Kick ass action scenes, too.
Elfman’s music worked well. And I actually liked the comic-book split-screen stuff.
Yeah, I’m gonna have to say X2 RULES ALL!!!! Well, in my opinion anyway.
Hmm….I’ve always been smitten with Batman–but just the ones that Tim did. And next to the 1989 Batman, and Batman Returns, I’d put Spider-man–I was one of the many to wait forever for it to come out, and I wasn’t disappointed!
I enjoy the X-men movies, but I think of them as something completely different than the comics–almost like they’re another comic line in and of themselves. You know, yet another alternative time-line and all….(because you know there aren’t enough existing already)!
I never really got into Superman all that much….I mean, I remember watching ’em as a kid and enjoying them and all. But, Superman is no Batman! There’s something about Superman that’s just too–clean, you dig? Too wholesome and such. Blah!
I haven’t seen the Hulk yet–but I’m still a little iffy about how he looks all animated and such. However, it is a movie that must be seen, and so it shall be! (Although I still miss the old concept of dunking a muscular guy in a vat of green paint, for a good ole cheesy factor! Not a fan of the Hulk comics, but oh how I used to love that show)….
The problem with Superman isn’t that he’s too “clean”–it’s that he’s too arbitrarily powerful. There’s nothing heroic about a guy off of whom bullets bounce who is more or less invincible and all-powerful. Yeah, I could save the world too if I had half the powers he does, and damn easily, too!
The essence of heroism is overcoming conflict and adversity. There’s not much conflict if there’s not much danger or difficulty.
Batman’s great. Spidey was a good movie (even though he’s a pretty wholesome guy). I’m a big fan of the X-Men. I haven’t seen the Hulk yet, but I’m looking forward to doing so in the next couple of days. I love the score (which, incidentally, I think is quite different from the POTA and Red Dragon scores, which I also love–particularly the latter; although I can see why there would be some similarties between Red Dragon and Hulk musically, since there’s a great deal of similarity thematically).
I still say it’s ’cause he’s too clean….bastard doesn’t even have a goatee! (Granted Batman does’t either–but he gets by on the saucy factor alone).
Yes, but the struggle if you had Superman’s powers would be IF you wanted to save the world, especially a world you see as imperfect in the first place. Superman suffers, just like us. We loose a close relative and grieve. Superman has grief but it is blown out of proportion because he has these powers (why couldn’t he stop his adopted father from dieing). Turning the world around and going back in time is something we all would like to do at least once in our lives. And this is the essence of all superheroes – they are powers that we would like to have…
Hulk – uncontrollable rage at the world
Superman – the power of invincibility (nothing can hurt us, but we know even in the case of Superman that this isn’t true)
Batman – vigilantism
All share traits of a flawed human as well (yes, I know Superman is alien, but he has grown up around humans, but this also brings up the idea of the outsider’s quest for acceptance). They are all trying to find their place in an imperfect world.
Be honest, if you had Superman’s powers would you still be working a day job?
It’s the same question as “Would you still work if you won the Lottery?”
Some people do, why is that? It might be that is their superhero coming out in them.Just something to think about
Nat
The Hulk has been really staying with me. Although I enjoyed X-Men 2 more ( I think), I’ve been thinking about Hulk almost frequently at work.
Aside from the chunky science of the Hulk Dogs (just an excuse to have another action beat), and the same confusing science behind Bruce’s dad, I’m happy that Ang Lee has raised the bar for comic book films.
It’s right on par this the physiological characters in Batman Returns.
Which is not surprising. I saw Ang on Charlie Rose and he was asked to describe the Hulk character, and it sounded like he was describing the Bruce Wayne/Batman persona.
Sadly, The Hulk’s artistry won’t help Hulk in the box office.
In comparison, Spider-Man was an absolute blast, it gave what general audiences will come back for again and again. However, Spider-Man was about as provocative as a day at the fair. That’s why (perhaps), Spider-Man had such a Monmouth success, and Hulk won’t.
I liked the scene with the mutated dogs. I thought that action sequence was one of the high points of the film.
Everyone keeps talking about its psychological depth, and it does have it. But I think its kick-ass action scenes are the major draw.
One thing that did bug me a bit was when the military is hunting the Hulk in the desert with the helicopters, no one actually gets hurt. It would show the helicopter crashing and then the pilot would say over the radio “We’re alright!” But that’s just a minor quibble.
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