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- March 30, 2009 at 9:55 pm #63837Descent Into MysteryParticipant
The plan is to make two more.
March 30, 2009 at 10:30 pm #63840Nick ParkerParticipantDescent Into Mystery, April Fool’s Day is not until Wednesday: you have no business making such an obvious and terrible joke like that right now, it is not funny.
April 1, 2009 at 3:09 am #63857elfboy91ParticipantI just hope that T4 is good! If it’s good then I will be happy! But overall McG hasn’t turned out to be a good director! Lets just cross our fingers and hope he’s screwed up and actually given us an acceptable film for once!… sorry to be uncouth…
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April 13, 2009 at 2:30 pm #63932gordonbluParticipantGetting back to the original post, Elfman might not do more than two films in a franchise, but he has lasted longer in the superhero genre than anybody, including John Williams. Williams bailed on Superman II leaving Superman the movie as his only superhero score while Danny has done 11 diffierent superhero movies as well as penning the theme to the Flash TV series. No one else can boast that!
April 13, 2009 at 9:31 pm #63933ThorParticipantWell, Williams did some new themes for SUPERMAN IV, of all things. But you’re probably right that there are no more superhero themes on his resume. Unless, of course, you stretch the definition to include guys like Indiana Jones, Harry Potter or the Star Wars dudes.
April 14, 2009 at 12:26 am #63934elfboy91ParticipantUm… No… That deserves a different definition… Like Epic films… Adventure films.. stuff like that…
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April 15, 2009 at 3:47 pm #63937gordonbluParticipantAbsoutely. And the only reason didn’t include Supes IV is because he only wrote themes and not the whole score. If that was part of the quation, then I would have to include the other Superman films because his themes were used. I realize that I am being double sided here because I did mention the Flash though…
April 16, 2009 at 1:10 am #63941Descent Into MysteryParticipantTo begin with, Williams didn’t write anything for Superman IV. Alexander Courage simply used alternate takes from the original score. You can hear those on the 2001 DVD of Superman: The Movie. Secondly, when did Elfman score 11 superhero movies? Shouldn’t it be 7? Batman, Darkman, Batman Returns, Spider-Man, Hulk, Spider-Man 2, and Hellboy 2. Men in Black, Men in Black II, and Wanted aren’t superhero movies. They’re just comic book adaptations. There’s a SLIGHT difference.
Anyway…McG gave an interview recently to MTV where he said a sequel to Terminator WILL happen if the first movie is a success. So…this is another possible franchise for Elfman.
April 16, 2009 at 2:22 am #63944NatreboParticipantOn the CD and Documentation for Superman IV it has John Williams writing the themes for Nuclear Man and Lacey… so he didn’t write these? Did Courage just use Williams name to make the score more important then? What news do you have on this issue Descent?
April 16, 2009 at 4:01 am #63946Nick ParkerParticipantI trust Michael Mattesino in this matter.
April 20, 2009 at 4:05 am #63961gordonbluParticipantI include those because they are adapted from comic books, though you ARE right, they aren’t superheroes. I don’t know though, being able to bend bullets to fly whichever direction you want is pretty super-powerish…
April 20, 2009 at 10:07 am #63962ThorParticipantDescent Into Mystery Wrote:
> To begin with, Williams didn’t write anything for
> Superman IV. Alexander Courage simply used
> alternate takes from the original score. You can
> hear those on the 2001 DVD of Superman: The Movie.I’m sorry, Descent, but Williams wrote “Jeremy’s Theme”, “Nuclear Man Theme” and “Lacy’s Theme” aka “Someone Like You”. The rest of the music was, as you say, for the most part Courage adaptations of the classic Williams themes:
http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm?ID=8874
SUPERMAN 2 and 3, however, were pure adaptations by Ken Thorne. No new Williams material there.
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