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now the music sounds great.. but whats the film like?
You mean, you haven’t seen the movie yet?
Well man if that is the case…GO RENT IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!Rent it? Why don’t you just bypass the middleman (and extra cost), and BUY IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nat – I would have loved to see (er, I mean hear) a Elfman commentary on this one.
from all Burton’s movies, this is the one i like the less. Poor script (especially the themes), too much Burton’s habits (snow, etc). Of course, there is the music, the actors, the amazing photographic and esthetical work, but one of the main reason i go for a Burton is that I know that he will tickle my thoughts with his provocative style and surprise me with his strange touch.
So, it’s still a good movie (for the entertainment ans there’s a good rythm) but i prefer the Planet of the apes for its sick tone.Wow…I’d say that “Sleepy Hollow” is rather near-and-dear, in that it was the first Burton/Elfman collaboration where 1) I realized who Tim Burton was, and also realized that I had enjoyed his work without knowing it was his and 2) realized the genius of Elfman, and also realized that I had enjoyed *his* work without knowing it was his.
True, the script is poor and the most of the beheading – call me sick, I already realize I am – is downright hilarious, but the aesthetic and musical aspects are top-notch, imo. Quite frankly, that’s why I watch Burton movies – the aesthetics and the music…the script is rather secondary, at least in my viewings.
-E (who is head-over-heels for Philip Glass’ “The Hours” score…repetitious, sure, and probably not wholly original, but it’s still one of my guilty pleasures)
I definately think Sleepy Hollow is far better than POTA. You think Sleep has a bad script? POTA’s is just a joke (“Dont send a monkey to do a man’s job”, anyone?) POTA is too mainstream aswell moving further and further away from Tims true gothism.
Sleepy Hollow is one of Tim’s best.Sleepy Hollow was great. I’m not going to claim it’s a great movie by its merits of script or acting or any of that. It is the most obvious of Tim Burton’s works. He works on scripts, but never gets writing credit. He’s got his hands in a lot of the facets of the movie, but his thing is truly the visual aspect. And to consider Sleepy Hollow visually…it’s a masterpiece. At first, I was greatly disappointed seeing the movie in the theatre on the Massachusetts/Rhode Island border on a cold autumn evening, but I soon accepted it for what it was. It is fun and nice too look at.
as for the music, i look at it this way: I was attracted to the way it worked in the movie. The themes are beautiful. THe orchestration very comlex (it’s really when he started using in upwards of 5 orchestrators) There are apsects that seemed to me like the good old elfman I had fallen in love with. But it really turned out to be something different. He was doing some of the same things he had been doing in recent movies, but was really changing his style. I didn’t take to the electronics he was using up to that point, but this was new and differnent, a combination of the way he used to compose (for burton anyway), and symbolic fo the new direction he wanted to go in.
Without Sleepy Hollow, I don’t think I would have the Elfman listeners vocabulary for appreciating subsequent scores. I think it was a great accomlishment.and on a side note, The Hours is a great score. But I am possibley crazier about Glass than Elfman if that’s possible…maybe that would change if danny had more albums out, I think I only have 30 or so of him, and over 70 by Glass.
Heads will roll and so will yours if you watch ‘Hollow. Heads will hurt and be subjected to cinematic garbage if you watch POTA.
Watching “Sleepy Hollow” is my tradition on Halloween…plus gathering whomever I can to watch it and the Boingo: Farewell DVD. Oh yeah, we also scare small children by handing out organically-grown apples
What else can I say? The music is *great* for a dark and stormy night, and works marvellously (sp?) well with the stunning visuals in the film.On my first viewing of – and listening to- “SH,” I thought, “Now, THIS is a Halloween movie…and the music, my god, the music!” I ended up talking about the music for an hour with the person who drug me to it – ha, there’s role reversal for you! So I was a little late getting into Elfman…most others seems to hold “Batman” or “Edward” as their first recognition of the man’s score talents. For me, “Sleepy Hollow” will always be the perennial Elfman favorite. In terms of the script and acting – Christina Ricci’s done *much* better, watch “Buffalo 66” or “Pumpkin” for proof – it’s not Burton’s best (which imo, is Beetlejuice). However, the visuals certainly are a force to be reckoned with. (And on a sidenote, Ms. Atwood certainly deserved her Oscar for the costuming!) Pure gothic horror, baby! Elfman’s music transformed “SH” from a visual masterpiece to a visual and musical triumph. Okay, I know, enough of the “SH” droolfest…
On yet another sidenote, I am refusing to acknowledge POTA as a Burton film. It just didn’t have the wacky, visually stunning Burton I’m used to. Not to cause controversy, but I’m hoping Timmy will redeem himself with “Big Fish.”
-E (who must buy more Philip Glass recordings! So, Richard, what’s his best? Could you email me your recommendations?)
I have some Glass recommendations if you would like to hear?
1. Symphony No. 2 & Sax Quartet Concerto
2. Anima Mundi – score
3. String Quartets 2-5 (Kronos Quartet)
4. Koyaanisqatsi – score
5. Naqoyqatsi – scoreThe score to The Hours would have been number 5 on my list. It’s one of my top 5 scores written for 2002, and deserving of it’s golden globe nomination.
Nat who has other minimalist recommendations if you ever want them.
N – thanks for the info! I’m utterly enchanted with “The Hours,” and am hoping to pick up more Philip Glass as the $$ allows. Other minimalist recommendations, eh? Lay ’em on me! Email is fine…
-E (Erik Satie and Philip Glass should’ve started a “music titling” business
)I’ve never heard Glass’ stuff. I would like to thought. I guess “The Hours” kind of exposed him to me, which means he probably has old work which is really good.
-Eric
He cuts off people’s heads–I mean what can be better than that? Go watch the thing, already!
cheers for the info, i went to buy a copy but didnt find one but ill keep a look out,
I sounds like one iof the films were u really have to see it for your self, their doesnt seem to be a one set opinion about this one wich is good really,HI!
i think also a very good score by glass is “Kundun”. I also love “itaipu” and “the canyon”….I really like glass but “the hours” is somehow boring( well i havent yet heard the whole score concentrated)….the themes are very beautiful and fit at that film….but without the images tha score is boring for me….
also a great minimalist is Yann Tiersen( became famous by composing the score for “le fabuleux destin d’Amélie Poulain”(beautiful film!)….he’s the new Satie…
what do you think?
salut!
Damian
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