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  • #37390
    strongballs
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    Why are movies only making around 20 mil? They used to do more than that. Is it because of the comericals in movie theaters?

    #55585
    danielwolk
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    There are many reasons, but most of all, it’s because movies suck.

    #55586
    Spider-Fan
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    Hmm, each one that Danny has scored in the past few years has been successful. Interesting. Yeah, movies have really sucked lately. The only movies I’ve been to in the last three months have been Tim Burton fims. Yes, I saw “Corpse Bride” twice and “Charlie” thrice. The only movie I saw prior to those was “War of the Worlds,” which didn’t follow the recent suckfest of movies…it was awesome.

    #55591
    Mr. Dantz
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    You haven’t seen a bad movie until you’ve seen:

    #55595
    Dawg Man
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    Once in a while a mega-movie comes along and carries the box-office, like Star Wars or Lord of the Rings or you name it. Aside from that, today’s filmmakers, by and large (technical credits excluded, i.e. FX), are retards compared to yesterday’s greats. Everything depends on fads, trends and vanity.

    This goes for TV too. You can watch an old episode of the Twilight Zone with the worst effects ever and still be totally enthralled. Then you can go and watch something from today on the Sci-Fi Channel with great effects but feel notably dead inside. It’s just not the same, especially on that network. They’ll make anything into a movie now. Spider vs. Snake. Snake vs. Rabbit. Rabbit vs. Python vs. Scorpion vs. Mutant Boa Constrictor. It doesn’t matter anymore. They just hire a gaggle of porn actors to double for serious actors and let their FX teams do all the real work. Fuck writing and directing and — hell — even common sense.

    And Fellini would have never made a teen movie.
    Movies today are nothing but empty candy wrappers. All shine and no substance.

    #55598
    Ghost Moth
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    This time of year (september-October) is traditionally very slow.
    Movies will debut at number one with teens of millions rather than 20 and upward.
    So looking at the recent box-office slump…
    Throw out a typical mundane or even horrible movie and it will conquer the box office reciepts at #1 with an embarassing amount cash like 15 million–
    about 10 million this time of year if the Olympics are on TV.

    A movies opening week box office is a good estimate of half of what it will make in theaters.

    Looking at recent movies that opened this weekend, I’ve heard of Doom, but video game movies are box office poison anyway. It’s like those orange-frosted cupcakes Hostess makes for the Halloween season. A novelty. It’s opportunity was to capitalize on the desire for a horror-type movie as Halloween approaches, and it made a typical October debut with 15 mil. Not too bad, they couldn’t have been expecting any better.

    The Rock’s new movie I haven’t heard of and from what little I read I would not pay to see it on a big screen. It made around 9 mil.

    Next week it should be better. Legend of Zorro, I think will do 14-15 mil at least. Then you have Saw II, that should be about the same. One could easily reduce the other to 10 mil, but I think these are the number one and two movies. Nic Cage has a new movie which looks interesting. 5-10 mil. Hmmm, I feel like I’m betting on the Belmont again. Hide my wallet before I hurt myself.

    Come November with Harry Potter, and especially in December with King Kong you’re going to see some serious shit.

    Revenge of the Sith, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, War of the Worlds–these all did well, as did Corpse Bride. And they were all exceptional films. I saw Sith six times and War of the Worlds twice. Wanted to see Charlie again but hated the theater it was at. Give the world something exciting to see and they will see it (again and again even), but most films released don’t even deserve to play on the big screen in a theater, much less make 20 million or more on any given opening weekend.

    See you at the Derby.

    #55602
    Mr. Dantz
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    I also hated the theatre I watched Corpse Bride in. The volume was too damn low. I could hear the audience noise better than I could the dialogue at times.

    There have always been bad movies catered to the masses. There are great directors out there with great movies. You just have to look a bit harder to find some of them.

    #55603
    TenderLumpling
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    Movies today are nothing but empty candy wrappers. All shine and no substance.

    They’ll always be bad movies out there. For every good movie that comes out in a month, there’s 20 more that are dreadful.

    Making good movies are hard, and a good one is usually the result of a quirk of fate (there is good stuff out there, you just need to know where to look — don’t be afraid of independent films, for instance) and that’s true to television and filmscores too.

    However, filmscores of the 40s and 50s are predominantly better than today’s fair. There is indeed great stuff coming out today, but so many scores these days sound like temp-jobs, where scores during the Golden age, by contrast, boast inventiveness, innovation and originality and far more exciting than what John Ottman is coming up with.

    (That wasn’t particularly a slam on John Ottman, as such, however, he can’t compete with his great predecessors.)

    I saw Sith six times and War of the Worlds twice.

    I saw Revenge of the Sith six times too. I love that movie. I don’t care what the naysayers… say. Dash them, I say.

    #55610
    Spider-Fan
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    I’m looking forward to The Legend of Zorro, but I think they picked a bad time to release it. Martin Campbell’s a solid director, everyone loved the first movie, and I personally liked James Horner’s score (he comes in just behind Danny Elfman on my list of favorite composers, despite the criticism he often receives. Just try listening to “The Perfect Storm” while driving next to the crashing waves from the Nor’easter that’s over the Massachusetts coast right now.)

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