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  • #38146
    rex
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    FSM’s crew finally puts the rumors to rest :

    http://media.libsyn.com/media/fsmpodcast/FSM_Podcast_025.mp3

    rex

    #59297
    Spider-Fan
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    Whoa whoa whoa, they didn’t once mention the REAL Spider-Man theme! The one that had mild statements in “Spider-Man” and huge, bold statements in “Spider-Man 2”! It follows what those guys believed was the Spider-Man theme and was most prominently heard in the second film’s “MJ’s New Life/Spidus Interruptus,” “The Bank/Saving May,” and “Train/Appreciation.” It’s a five-note piece and I can’t understand how they missed it. It’s my cell phone’s ring tone, dammit!

    I’m not sure if I had heard that interview in which Elfman describes the backyard cue, but it seems so ridiculous that whoever was responsible for that wouldn’t let the new material be. I mean, I’ve heard what he wrote and it has almost no difference from their beloved temp track other than that it’s lengthened to match the scene! Talk about crazy city over there. Also I didn’t know there was an alternate version of the “Costume Montage” from the first movie — while I love what was finally accepted, the original piece was actually very nice.

    #59298
    Edward Bloom
    Participant

    I’m not sure to follow you Spider-Fan, they did analyse the main Spider-Man theme…
    What theme are you talking about ?

    #59299
    Spider-Fan
    Participant

    Break out the iTunes, pull up your “Spider-Man 2” playlist, and I shall demonstrate…

    “MJ’s New Life/Spidus Interruptus”: 1:10-1:16, 1:19-1:25, and 2:17-2:22
    “The Bank/Saving May”: 3:37-3:43 and 4:18-4:22
    “Train/Appreciation: 1:10-1:15
    “Spider Fall” (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4MJyceiE4): 0:56-1:04

    It also has appearances in the first “Spider-Man” score, though not as prominent as in the sequel…

    “City Montage”: 1:07-1:11
    “Final Confrontation”: 2:12-2:18

    This melody is what I’ve always interpreted as the Spider-Man theme, and I’ve always wished it was used more. While the theme that the FSM guys say is Spider-Man’s theme certainly gets a lot more play, I feel like it is more of a lead-in to the theme I’ve demonstrated.

    #59300
    Edward Bloom
    Participant

    I see…
    Well to me that’s just a very classical variation around the main theme harmonics, a simple heroic sentence. In terms of these heroic variations, I actually prefer the one that follows the one you are referring to in Spider-Man 1 Main Titles (at 2:11 to 2:19). It leads the melody to new and more unexpected harmonics.

    But I really consider those variations very minor in relation to the main Spider-Man theme, analysed in the FSM podcast. That’s the real Spider-Man theme to me because of its versatility and its slow but powerful progression…

    #59302
    Spider-Fan
    Participant

    I definitely understand now that what you’re talking about is the Spider-Man theme, and its adaptations in “Spider-Man 3,” though ripped with little change from the main titles, make more sense now. Still, it’s worth noting that my impression of the theme was used lightly in the first movie and then used a lot more in the second movie, so it’s definitely a part of Spider-Man’s musical identity that Elfman intended to include. It’s a shame we couldn’t hear more of either theme in the most recent film installment…

    #59304
    Mr. Dantz
    Participant

    Complaints about no theme in Sleepy Hollow? There’s no WAY somebody can be that STUPID! That score has some of the most beautiful themes ever written.

    #59310
    Spider-Fan
    Participant

    Wow, really? Of all scores, they couldn’t find themes in “Sleepy Hollow”? The “Ichabod Crane” theme is very clear and plays many times during the score, with a beautiful version of it in the “A New Day!” that I often listen to over and over because it’s so amazing. Then there’s the very prominent “Horseman” theme which I can’t imagine anyone missing… it’s a very strong theme.

    #59311
    gaba
    Participant

    Agreed. I understand some of their points, but “Sleepy Hollow” is madly thematic. It’s so classic that way, it’s hard to miss. And yet. :-]

    #59314
    TenderLumpling
    Participant

    Agreed. I understand some of their points, but “Sleepy Hollow” is madly thematic. It’s so classic that way, it’s hard to miss.

    Wow, never underestimate film score fans with an axe to grind, I guess.

    #39724
    sajrocks
    Participant

    Someone has been posting the complete Spider-Man score on the YouTube. I didn’t even notice there was music on the bus ride.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKPItNr5y7I

    #62371
    ddddeeee
    Participant

    There’s a lot of great music missing from the album. Peter climbing the wall and jumping across the buildings, Spidey saving the dumb kid at the parade, Spidey and Goblin’s second fight and a lot of The Final Confrontation being glaring omissions. Hope it eventually gets expanded.

    #62372
    DannyBiker
    Participant

    Guys…I mean…it’s out there…since forever.

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