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  • #38317
    TenderLumpling
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    Wow. It actually makes the trailer seem exciting.

    It’s funny how many fan trailers there are out there juxtaposing Elfman’s music with the Nolan material.

    #60040
    DannyBiker
    Participant

    Hmm….it doesn’t work for me sorry. Elfman’s music really need the gohic approach to work.

    #60041
    TenderLumpling
    Participant

    Batman looks very gothic to me.

    #60042

    Elfman’s music could work with Nolan’s Batman world, but these people who make the videos always pick the wrong track. Nolan wants his Batman to be as grounded “as possible” so you need the least over the top music.

    #60043
    Donnie_Darko88
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    Agreed. The trailer is amazing regardless of which score they use.

    #60044
    Spider-Fan
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    It works pretty well, though I think the Zimmer music still made for a really intense trailer. Either way, as agreed, this is a fantastic trailer.

    #60045
    TenderLumpling
    Participant

    Nolan wants his Batman to be as grounded “as possible” so you need the least over the top music.

    Well, when you see Batman gliding across Gotham, and smashing in car roofs with his feet, and driving into windows with his Batcycle, that is over the top. And that’s great. It’s Batman doing Batman stuff. I do not understand why the music needs to be in direct conflict with the imagery. I don’t buy the argument that a more realistic Batman movie equals a modern, subdued film score, especially when the tone of Nolan’s Batman isn’t that far off from Batman the Animated Series.

    #60050

    Of course there will be some over the top and fantastical stuff, but Nolan wants his Batman grounded. Unlike Burton who had a more theatrical Batman,

    TenderLumpling Wrote:


    > Nolan wants his Batman to be as grounded “as
    > possible” so you need the least over the top
    > music.
    >
    > Well, when you see Batman gliding across Gotham,
    > and smashing in car roofs with his feet, and
    > driving into windows with his Batcycle, that is
    > over the top. And that’s great. It’s Batman doing
    > Batman stuff. I do not understand why the music
    > needs to be in direct conflict with the imagery. I
    > don’t buy the argument that a more realistic
    > Batman movie equals a modern, subdued film score,
    > especially when the tone of Nolan’s Batman isn’t
    > that far off from Batman the Animated Series.

    #60051
    TenderLumpling
    Participant

    … but Nolan wants his Batman grounded. Unlike Burton who had a more theatrical Batman…

    Well never mind if Nolan truly achieved that (the finale did get rather goofy in Batman Begins), Nolan’s Batman and the animated Batman are relatively similar tonally, and the Animated Series has that lush score that one would come to expect to go with all that great Batman imagery from “Begins.”

    #60055
    Spider-Fan
    Participant

    I re-watched “Batman Returns” last night. Still an amazing movie. But I do sense the tonal differences between the Burton/TAS Batman and the Nolan Batman, and while I still love Elfman’s music a zillion times more, the Zimmer music is really planting itself in the new franchise. It felt especially powerful in the “Dark Knight” trailer when the title came up and the horns blasted the new Batman motif.

    #60057

    Nolan’s Batman and the animated series from Bruce Timm and Paul Dini are not the same. The Timm/Dini Batman was less theatrical than Burton’s Batman but it still had a lot of fantasy elements. I mean…remember the episodes with Man-Bat, Clay Face, etc? Those are characters you’ll never see in Nolan’s world.

    #60059
    Ryan Keaveney
    Keymaster

    I think somebody could do a really good job cutting together some of Elfman’s BATMAN music to this trailer, but this video just lays the audio right over without much attention to what’s going on onscreen.

    #60065
    TenderLumpling
    Participant

    No one is advocating that the music in Batman Begins should be as big as the animated Batman show, but I simply do not understand how “realism” necessitates a generally modern, soothing score with synthetic brass.

    #60091
    JMY
    Participant

    Whats up with all of these sad attempts to remake everything with old Elfman music?

    Cant people just accept that Elfman doesn´t do Bat-music anymore =)?

    Elfman/Burton and Nolan/Zimmer-Howard = Great scores. Just dont try to mix em together

    #60098
    TenderLumpling
    Participant

    Here’s another one!

    This one isn’t very good. But at least the music doesn’t sound like The Rock.

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