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It’s even more surprising coming from Burton, remembering how many time Elfman’s music had a very important place in scenes of his movies…
I’m surprised and disappointed with this… Not a lot of good concrete news about Elfman lately, I hope his next released scores will be outstanding.
I suppose it would have been hard (and maybe not very interesting) for Elfman to write new music for the new scenes, as it would have been necessary for him to reproduce exactly the style of the original, in order to have a real musical unity…I doubt a composer is found of imitating exactly what he did twenty years ago, trying to forget what he learned since then.
I hope Danny Elfman will do it. It would be really interesting to see him handle again such a project with all the experience he has acquired in the interval.
It was Lionel Newman :
“As Lionel Newman took up the baton on the main title sequence of Beetlejuice, Danny Elfman quickly realized that the performance wasn’t matching his vision for the music. “This was a major conductor dilemma,” Elfman says. “Lionel decided to interpret the music, and every interpretation he did was incorrect if not diametrically opposed to what I wanted. I was in the recording booth. Every question asked by the orchestra, he would answer before I could jump in on the talkback, and it was usually the opposite of what I was about to say”
(from “Danse macabre”, p64. The passage on Newman is longer, but this part summarizes the essential)Well, I’m always happy to learn about new projects. Plus, he hasn’t done a lot of period dramas in his carreer (only “Sommersby” comes in my mind…)
I’m looking forward to it !
I’m getting quite impatient to hear some new Elfman…The Unknown Known was several months ago, and there wasn’t even any expanded re-release in the meantime.I think Thor was speaking about the theme of sexuality, not about the style of the music. Well, the theme is present in Dolores Claiborne, in a way, but it’s more about abuse and incest…
Yes, and then there will probably be “Beetlejuice 2”. I am both impatient and worried with this one…But Burton never fully disappointed me, and as far as Elfman is concerned it’s going to be really interesting to hear him re-visit such an early musical landscape, seing how much his style has evolved in all those years.
It could be really interesting, as a new territory for Elfman. I expect something a bit more in the spirit of what he did for “Milk”, or some other Van Sant movies…
I doubt it very much. As far as I know, Elfman doesn’t really have a good knowledge of orchestra conducing. The mistake is done quite often, though.
Speaking of “Batman : the animated series”, La-La-Land revealed on its facebook page that a volume three of the show’s ost. No release date for the time being, but I suppose it will be this year.
Well, I don’t have a real problem with the method as long as the result is good. It’s not often the case lately with Zimmer, even if his most recent works are better than what he did around 2011-2012 in my opinion.
Allow me to doubt it very much : quite a lot of other sources don’t confirm what you say, and Newton Howard didn’t even worked on Dark Knight Rises. And I think that it’s really easy in “The dark knight” to guess who did what, the styles of the two composers don’t really mix at all in it.
I can understand that ZImmer’s music and even way of working displease you : but he is most of the time rather honest concerning his additional composers, and one can find quite a lot of information about who did what.“Zimmer wasn’t even there until the final editing process.”
That’s even stranger, because Zimmer works mainly before the editing process, by creating musical suites based on the script, what he knows of the movie and the images he gets of it : then, his additional composers come and rearrange the suites in order to correspond with precise passages of the movie. Sometimes it’s just editing, sometimes it’s arranging, and sometimes they have to write some new material.
Again, I’m not speaking here about the music itself. I kind of like “Batman Begins” and “The Dark knight”. I was very disappointed by “The Dark Knight Rises”. Still, none of them is half as good as Elfman’s two Batman scores in my opinion.
If Elfman is hired as the composer, I hope it will have a bit more original score than “American Hustle”…
