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damn the one thing i found to be inventive about the guy, and all of a sudden it sucks – his synth use. His choral use should be next to go…
Actually it sounds like it’s going to be like one of those Vegas concerts where the performers sing the songs half-assed and start talking during them…
I told you all there’d be bad reviews. You oughtta check out the IMDB…they got lots to say, too. This ain’t no NBX. That much is certain. But it was an ok 90 minutes…
Spare me interviews. You gotta read more reviews, and not just the headlines, or what you wanna read.
Well, there’s only popular opinion that’s going to rule on this one, and the reviews are mixed, wether it be Wagnerian or not…Still an unoriginal piece of work as far as i’m concerned.
The Wedding Song and Making Christmas are very comperable. The fact that you’re fighting this tooth and nail suggests you’re just disagreeing for the sake of the disagreement alone, so i’ll leave it at that…
Well…I think it’s better than Corpse…But I also happen to think the score to the Devil’s Rejects is some top notch ambience, so what can I say?
OK I’ll be honest with you…there’s ONE cue in the score that’s good. ONLY one….
When the Bride pops out and chases Victor…that’s it. Only that one.
Thanks for the vote Dantzy…you’re alright.
Ryan – people say that status means nothing in this world, but it does. Usually the ones who say it means nothing are the ones on the higher tier, if you get me…because all they gotta look at from the top of the tree are smiling faces all the way down….the ones climbing? They get a good look at the buttholes. Point of view – it’s not just for breakfast.
If you can’t see the obvious, then I guess you should check out other reviews abroad. The Plot outline is way too similar to NBX, which is why the flick has been getting such mixed reviews. I’ll give you a couple of key points, since you BADLY wanna know, K?
1: Main character goes off to the woods and encounters a world beyond his imagination.
2: Main character winds up bringing both worlds together, which ends up in chaos.
Throw in your “JACK” theme, your “SALLY” theme, an “OOGIE BOOGIE” archetype, a couple of dead kids with Danny’s voice playing one of them, a “Making Christmas”-type song and you get pretty much a carbon copy of NBX. I’d say it would be a 100% carbon if it wasn’t for the Jazz riffs Elfman incorporated, but then again, NBX had some Big Band swing in it…so it ain’t that far off.
The only real differences, you could say, would be that Emily winds up becoming the “JACK” character, in that SHE is the outsider…and you COULD also say that it’s NBX in reverse – with the real world as the main setting and the weird world as the supporting character. But that’s nitpicking.
If you guys like it…Good for you. Praise with the ones who aren’t critical about it. You know, I come in here and make a valid opinion about reasons why this isn’t such a good flick/score as I had first thought, and YOU’RE the one who waltzes in here and decides to play contrary to my subject.
And Beth…you know, it ain’t just a one-way street. You don’t have to reply, either, nor be in this thread to begin with. There are literally hundreds of other threads that are praising Elfman for this one. You came here out of your own interest. And the title DOES say “BEWARE” — so i did warn you.
any more “In what way”s and you’ll have to look it up for yourself.
Well…NBX set the high watermark. Corpse Bride falls well below it. Really, if you look at it, it’s not very inspired, the storyline is the same, the characters are the same, and the music mirrors the same…it’s on a lower tier than NBX, therefore it’s a cheap bastardization in my book. Danny’s good at what he does, but what he did here is nothing new to me. I’ve listened to Danny since Boingo (and even then they kinda matched Queen and Styx’s styles), and this isn’t that great. I’ve already seen this movie and heard this music before. It’s like putting Batman and Dick Tracy together and trying to pick the best one. Or Edward and Darkman and Nightbreed and Batman and Dick Tracey. Or Batman Returns and NBX…So far this year he’s done Charlie and Corpse Bride…and that looks like it’s gonna be it for the rest of the year. Its disappointing. He should either be a film composer or a in a rock band. This year he seems to mix them both up, and i’m not amused by it, because both venues suffer from his combination and lack any potentcy when performed.
Hey – i’m just tired of his shtick – or his OLD shtick, which is what he’s referring to with this music. I just don’t dig his kiddie-styled tunes, anymore. And his best work flows from his struggling and suffering, like any great artist (which he is presently not). Elfman’s not hungry anymore, and it shows. I’m happy that he’s happy, but really it’s a catch 22 because when you become content, it tarnishes your creative drive, somewhat. I mean, look at Spielberg…
That’s my two cents – I don’t care what ya do with it.
i have a connection with the macabre, too…
i’m constantly thinking of death and killing. Entrails and lollipops. yummy.
i like his stuff as much as i hate it…He does a service – but not all the time.
He’s good for rampage music and oom-pa-pa waltz..oh and choral stuff.
thats all i need him for: to maintain the highs and lows.
I gotta admit. though i’m tired of his oompapa waltzes already…too wacky.
I wasn’t FEELING Graves’ keyboard work…it just sounded TAME and one-note, really. Sounded like he used a cheap keyboard, at that…Especially now – Boingo Alive I will barely listen to, after the hack job he did on No One Lives Forever, respectively. It just sounds crappy with a capital “C”.
Actually I’ve heard videogames use major layering when they wanna expand a score – they just strip down the main music to where it’s only the beat in some parts, or just the flutes in other parts, but the rhythm is the same, and it’s still the same song…I don’t know if it’s considered great to layer stuff, so as long as you dont make the music one gigantic layer…Kinda like what MIB 2 was…
I like his more mature works, myself…this music just comes off as “kiddie” to me…much like Charlie
You know, you SAY you’d rather spend your time doing something OTHER than rant about crap on the web, and yet, you’re still playing footsies with me…
You can stop anytime you want to. My opinion still stands. If it doesn’t fit your high-and-mighty opinion, that’s your business.
…and what’s with the cut n’ paste? I’m intelligent enough to understand your reference, as well as am I intelligent enough to expect one to understand my reference, and not bother cutting and pasting quotes…
Hey lumpling…there’s no real theme because it sounds too much LIKE Charlie and Frighteners, Sleepy Hollow and a cheap bastardization of NBX. You wanna hail Elfman’s earwax can cure cancer? Go right ahead…But i know what I hear, pookie.
Kiss kiss. Takes one to know one, pee wee.
Eh whatever…pick what institution you like best…Still an institition – you already know what to expect.
I dont classify them as such anymore, considering their mainstays and success and popularity. They were the bomb when they were struggling mavericks…Now they’re institution.
