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Bates’ music for Watchmen is actually John Carpenter inspired. Director Zack Snyder wanted an `80s feel since the movie takes place in 1985.
Isn’t it too soon for Elfman to have started work on the movie? He’s currently working on Terminator and this movie doesn’t open till November.
NEW TRAILER:
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/need-to-know-terminator-salvation.htmlCan you hear the Elfman score?
Okay. Fine. So some stuff was left out. Still, a lot of the rejected music is in the CD so it’s better than nothing.
You’re right about “happy montage”, “burning building”, “play” and “ock experiement”. Still…that doesn’t change the fact that half of the rejected music is on the CD. Secondly, as for the final fight between spidey and ock it’s possiblie that Elfman left that out on purpose. He already included Armageddon/A Really Big Web on the CD. I think it was just one of those annoying “let’s leave it out for the heck of it” things that Elfman does sometimes. Like in the first CD he left out Peter’s first wall climbing music which as I recall everyone was upset with.
Danny Biker’s video is music from the CD. Train/Appreciation is on the CD. Aunt May Packs is on the CD. Doc Ock’s Experiment Gone Wrong and Surgery Room Massacre is on the CD. Bank Robbery and Saving May is on the CD. Whatever was cut on from the climax is on the CD.
The only thing I don’t recall on the CD is the Pizza Delivery Man cue. However, chances are it’s there and I haven’t bothered to look for it.
Correction. There is no un-released Spidey 2 material. What you hear on YouTube is what’s on the CD.
Returns is cool and all, but Batman is a million times better. And since both are great scores that’s saying something.
I’m surprised about the love theme as well. I would think that if they had any problems with the score it would be the actual Spider-Man theme. I recall that when the movie was released in 2002 the general complain was that it wasn’t Batman enough. And by that I mean that it wasn’t in your face enough.
Yes, elfboy91, some of us are old. Well, anyway, I’m gonna be more specific from my original post. When I found out that Beetlejuice, Batman, and Simpsons were composed by the same guy I became a fan.
Spidey 3 got an extra year for visual effects. There was three villians this time as opposed to one. The script development time was the same as usual if not less since Venom was thrown in at the last second.
The movie is flawed but I don’t think it’s as bad as everyone says. Although a good score would have helped. When symbiote spidey shows up the last thing people wanted to hear was Batman Forever-esque music. Young did a better job with Venom. Maybe he should have scored symbiote spidey that way.
rkeaveney, if anything…Raimi had less to say in part 1 and 2 than in part 3. It is well-known by now that Spidey 3 was a pain in the butt for Raimi. For starters, he had originally intended to make an entirely different movie. Then, Sony and Marvel forced him to adapt the Venom storyline from the comics. By the time that happened it was too late to do write a new draft of the script, so they had to start shooting without a completed script. As a result, changes were being made all the time. Thomas Haden Church who did the commentary with Raimi talked about how some scenes had 4 different versions! And, James Franco was also there and said that it was the first time EVER that he saw Raimi lose his cool and explode on set. That’s how much stress Raimi was under during production. The man literally lost his cool. So, he had a lot to say about Spidey 3 yet he still had enough time to drop a few references to Young. Was it really so hard to mention Elfman ATLEAST during the opening credits of the first movie.
I don’t think Danny went for Big Fish cause he was the only nominee. In the case of Good Will Hunting, Men in Black, and Milk he went in support of the movie since it was nominated for several awards including Best Picture.
I know that Sam spoke kindly of Elfman’s work in the Music Featurette but I don’t think that was done specifically for the DVD. It looks like someone asked him the question during the press junket and an editor working on the DVD threw it in there. So, technically Raimi hasn’t said anything specifically for the DVD on any of the three movies. Yet he mentions Chris Young several times.
As for the use of Elfman’s music in Spidey 3, wasn’t it reported like a month or two prior to the movie’s release that Sony was un-satisfied with Young? And then Grant Curtis (producer of the movie) wrote on his blog that Elfman was coming back to work with Young on the music? Then, it turned out that it was actually Steve Bartek who showed up. So, this was Sony’s doing and not Raimi. Also, notice how Young’s score was never released.
Young did some good stuff like the Birth of the Sandman for example but I have a feeling that he mostly did crap work. That’s why John Debney and Deborah Lurie were brought in to score several cues.
Raimi doesn’t give kudos to the Batman theme in Evil Dead 2. In fact, it was borderline insult. What he said was, “Joe’s music here sounds like Danny’s Batman theme. I’m gonna have to give him a call later…”
No youtube? Fine. You can listen to parts of the score at the website:
http://www.coraline.com/For a campy Batman movie I thought Elliot Goldenthal did a great job. You can’t even compare it to Elfman cause they were composing two different movies. Now, compare it to the `60s Adam West series (which was also great BTW) and then we can debate.
That being said…
If we are gonna compare Elfman’s Batman music to anyone it should be Shirley Walker. She did an amazing job with B:TAS.
