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Whats up with all of these sad attempts to remake everything with old Elfman music?

Cant people just accept that Elfman doesn´t do Bat-music anymore ?

Elfman/Burton and Nolan/Zimmer-Howard = Great scores. Just dont try to mix em together

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http://www.chrisyoung-filmmusic.info/start.htm

This source says there will be no release of the Spiderman 3 Score.

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Speaking of the sound of Batman. Here is one really far out version

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(to get back on track and off the Zimmer-trail…..)

Well its just not fair to critizes someones work if youre not planing to make a better job yourself

My take own on the Sandman theme.

Youll find it here:

http://www.myspace.com/jmyscore

or here

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CTKotJHU0E8

But i just noticed how f

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up the sound gets on You Tube files

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This thing is starting to sound like all other “Elfman is The Batman” discussions.

Elman made a killer Batman theme, but why cant anybody make a new and different take on it? I think you have made up your mind about this thing and it wont matter who makes it or how the new theme would sound, you´ll still think Elfman should do it ?

…or what did i miss?

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(Big problem to write this in english, but ill give it a try

My opinion is that Dany Elfmans music was perfect for Burtons Batman films. No question. But those where big “Phantom of the opera” kind of films with strange monsters all lurking in shaddows, with towering buildings with giant statues on every rooftop etc…

It was an fantasy adventure at times with large battle of penguins or gangster wars with clowns running wild.
Just a big comic book joy ride.

But Batman Begins is nothing like that at all in my opinion. There is always this realistic feel about everything. No monsters, No giant ballons with gas, No penguins marching with rockets etc

When i see that clip with Batman Begins scored with Elfmans music it feels so terribly wrong. The music is screaming big opera adventure and the pictures are saying seriuos drama.

If one would put Elfmans music on the whole Batman Begins film i think the score would feel very overdramatic and out of place. Its simply to over the top with that kind of music for this film. Batman 1989 – One of the best scores i have ever heard. But just dont put it together with Batman Begins

Of course Zimmer/Howards score isnt even close to the quality of Elfmans Batman score, but its a great match for the film i represents. If its a booring score? No i think its a score that has a purpose to underline the ambience of the whole film rather then making you rise up of joy like the time you heard the “Batman main titles” for the first time. So if im looking for a entertaining score for the cd-player in my car, this one really isnt up for the task.

But TenderLumpling. We can agree on one thing. Elfman beats Zimmer 9 out of 10 times when it comes to filmmusic. But just mix their films together.

Who would like the superior Ed Scissorshands music as the soundtrack for “Amercian Beauty”? Thats almost the same thing to me as putting Elfmans score on Batman Begins

To make this spiderman 3 thread even more out of order…

Elfman and Zimmer have done other sequel scores that one could fight over wich one did it best?

Mission Impossible vs Mssion Impossible II
Hannibal vs Red Dragon

My take on it: Elfman – Zimmer 2-0

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Well i dont fully agree on that one.

Ottmans X-men 2 wasnt any good. But i think Zimmer/Howard made a great score for Batman Begins. It was just the right tone for that movie. Its crazy how people bash it beacause it didnt sound like Elfman or Goldenthal’s approach.

It had a serious feel to it just like the movie, and i think the themes that where written was more interesting than Goldenthal’s over the top noise fanfares and boogie-chaos.

So Young, Ottman and Goldenthal – thumbs down

And Elfman, Powell, Zimmer/Howard thumbs up

….and i didnt forget John Williams but he basicly started the whole thing so why bring him up along these guys

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Hehe true

But then again he´s Batman scores really sounded like a 3 year old could have done better

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Hehe got it

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Well of course it not exactly the same stuff note for note, but the point was to show that Young stuff was so booooring, sometimes simpel and out of place compared with Elfmans stuff.

The Sandman action theme as said, is a real dissapointment. The good part of the music was as you said, when he tried to pick up the silver “locket”.

( or whats it called in english? We Swedes dont know all words in english yet

I think the symbiote theme was to over the top and more “X-men” instead of a dark evil side of Spiderman. Why didnt he try to do something “evil and twisted” with the spiderman theme to use as the symbiote music?. I know there was some parts of that in the church scene, but it should have been used more frequently.

But all efforts in the world of music couldnt save this movie from being a total ***************

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The Spiderman 3 – Main titles can simply be made with a little cut and paste here and there.

Sam Raimi must have had these tracks as the tempmusic for the main title. Then he just asked Young to make them longer

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/167011/Spiderman–temp-track-titles-mp3.html

But its not the first time

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I think Raimi has a great solution to that problem .

Part 4 The Sinister Six

Part 5 Sinister Twelve

Part 6 Oceans Thirteen

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Well the movie was a mess as most poeple say. To many charachters and an ending that brought up more “Batman & Robin -moments” than a normal human can handle.

The music was okey, but i think the “Black suite theme” was a bit missplaced. It would have been a better match for the Sandman characther. As for the “main titles”, it wasnt as smooth as Elfmans versions with the Goblin and Dr.ock themes.

Sadly the Spiderman films just went down the same path as Batman and Superman went when the third movie was released.

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Danny Elfman
Chris Young
John Debney
Deborah Lurie

Are there any one else who wrote som stuff to this movie ?

If Elfman described the working process on Spiderman 2 as “hell” … what could one say about this mess?

Why does Raimi even hire a composer, he seems to use every singel note of his temp tracks anyway. Even if the score is a real cut and paste job, it would be nice to get a score album (if it going to happen?). But i guess not even Sony knows which music Raimi really used.

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Edward Bloom Wrote:

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> This thread will self-destruct in five seconds…

? Now thats cute. Did you come up with that one all by yourself?

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http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=4962

Well now its “hot “again

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I agree that the scene gets a more haunting and creepy effect with no music.

The music dosn´t really fit the moment when the “arms” attacks the guy with the chainsaw.

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I use Reason and Cool Edit Pro

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