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Is it just me or did half the Elfman clips on that site disappear? Most of the interviews and news footage are gone.
I love Clausen’s music and he may have earned it but the movie would have to stand out and, since Danny’s theme is in the collective memory, it would be more than interesting to see him score a feature film based on it seventeen years after the fact.
It’s just like with the TV show The Critic. Hans Zimmer did the theme to that and if they ever made a movie, Zimmer should score it.
You know, I do like Hans Zimmer. Don’t get me wrong. Hannibal and Gladiator were good scores. I just don’t think this is a movie that he should do. Danny deserves it more than anybody else. He made that show more famous than it probalby would have been with that theme.
Let’s keep optimistic…
Well fantastic. The bulk of It’s recorded and we still have to wait until December to hear it in full. Strange seeing Elfman conducting though.
Well, there’s no way I’m ever buying the Shumacher movies so I’m betting there’s a few people here who haven’t seen that either.
Christ, that director pisses me off still. If he didn’t want Danny, at least use the theme for continuity. You never change what works (ask Bryan Singer on Superman, or any of these post-Columbus Harry Potter directors). In retrospect though, I’m glad he didn’t use Danny’s theme. As talented as Goldethal is, it seperates the fake Batman movies from the real Batman movies.
As for Goldenthal, he did what he could and I don’t blame him at all. I laughed a little when he said “I didn’t watch anything that came before.” There’s no way he cleansed his pallette like Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard did (of course that makes his score better than theirs).
I can understand why Danny was so pissed about it though. Shumacher didn’t even call him. It shows how much sense Warner had in their directives that they’d forget the music.
Ultraviolet. Aeon Flux. Underworld. etc.
All the same movie in different clothing.Hollywood is getting so redundant it’s beyond comprehension.
Wow. Looks like i’ll reverse the sentiment that Brokeback is the big winner. CRASH just kicked it’s ass as best picture.
The only thing that surprises me is John Williams, who got two noms, being beaten out by the gay cowboy movie composer. This honestly is the year for the Brokeback movie, damn the other material.
By the way, It’s weird to see Elfman get snubbed so “It’s hard to be a pimp” can win. What… the… hell.
I doubt people of his likes are allowed near superhero movies anymore.
Jon Peters is still producing Superman Returns… God help us.
It’s funny though, the original suit is being used in the new movie and Superman flies. I guess Peters doesn’t find it “faggy” anymore.
I think that maybe if Jon Peters wouldn’t have screwed up the script as he did — what with polar bears and gay robots — and gave Smith and Burton creative freedom to actually work together, we may have actually gotten a movie. I’m sure all Tim saw in the script was gay robots and polarbears and went “What the hell? I’m bringing on my guys.”
All I remember was the announcement that it was to be recorded. I’m not sure that means a CD release, which kind of sucks.
Yeah, I saw that. The Superman incident must have pissed him off even if he says it didn’t. But Tim must have friends in high places because Smith gets kicked out after telling the Burton story. I laughed my ass off when that happened.
You guys have to read his whole account of the topic in Burton on Burton. Tim said himself that initially he didn’t want to do the movie unless it was done right, and the only way he could imagine that happening would be if Superman was treated on an otherwordly level, completely different from what came before. Batman was treated psychologically but Superman Lives would have stressed the alien element. Plus it would have been a darker movie than any of those previous. Tim does great with that. Spandex and Red Underwear isn’t exactly Burton’s thing but he would have made a good movie.
That’s what they said about Michael Keaton on Batman. The difference is on Batman, Burton had a chance to prove us wrong.
Um, I’m pretty sure I posted a live version of that one online.
http://www.twilight-land.comCheck the features.
With the time constraints and the pressure mounting of course orchestrators are needed. No person’s perfect and with the release date approaching sometimes more objective eyes are needed.
If Elfman were writing for a magazine, Bartek would be his proof reader. That’s basically it. That’s the relationship. True, a lot of orchestrators take popular melodies and create orchestral versions of them, this isn’t the way Elfman works with them.
Tell your boyfriend this:
Elfman comes up with the arrangement, the melody and mostly everything else. The orchestrators just make sure that the music is “playable”, i.e. in the correct range or other such things.If nobody believes me, listen to Elfman’s preliminary unorchestrated mock-ups for The Nightmare Before Christmas (one’s on the MFADT II CD) and then listen to the final score. There’s some differences but it’s more or less the same music.
It’s hard to top Black Beauty, I’m sorry. Zimmer’s great (when he actually uses a damn orchestra) but Elfman took that movie by storm.
Was that a slam?
If it was… Simon’s likely getting his ass jumped by Elfman some time soon. I can imagine Danny hiding out with a lead pipe somewhere in an alleyway outside the Idol studios. Then when Simon walks by, out of nowhere, he pounces and beats the hell out of him while singing “What’s this”.
No, I remember that too, in an Elfman interview. During the process Ang Lee would say stuff like “You’re sounding too much like Danny Elfman there.”
Well, duh.
Yeah, I kind of was a bastard for a while there, I know. Anyway, I guess this is my way of making up. I’ll post Freeway again some time in the future with a number of other things. There’s still two or three other Mystic Knights performances I have that need posting as well. I also have a promo of Steve Bartek’s unreleased filmmusic but I’m still trying to figure whether I should post that or not. I’ll probably have to write his site before that. It’s all up in the air.
You see, the way I figure it is that once a record company releases this stuff I’ll take it down. I post this stuff to get at least a little bit of demand going for MORE.
