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KeymasterThis was a great movie to work on. Cronenberg is the best. Quick and simple because he knows what he wants and works with the same key creative crew. I don’t know if I am in the behind-the-scenes stuff, but I know the U.S. election ballots I designed are in there. During production in Toronto, the U.S. election (Bush & Kerry) was raging. Viggo Mortensen wanted to hold our own election here. I designed the ballots
For those who care, John Kerry won, with like 98% of the vote.Ryan
Ryan Keaveney
KeymasterI’ve now seen DEEP SEA 3D and “Serenada” is the spirit behind the score. But there isn’t much direct qouting of the work. There are major sections of “Movement I: Piano” and “Movement V: I Forget (Choral)” in two parts of the film respectively, and the frenetic “Movement IV: Quadruped Patrol” is used for the gigantic squid sequence. Elfman also spins out a great, SPIDER-MAN 2/”Armageddon/A Really Big Web!” (1:12 in)-like motif in the scene exploring the wreck. The score is fantastic, seamless (I couldn’t tell where Elfman started and Lurie ended) and gorgeous. If it doesn’t get a CD release then it will be 2006’s first great musical travesty.
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KeymasterYou can subscribe for $4.95 for the month. That’s not a lot! I’d share the Quicktime files, but that is definitely not cool considering they are FSMs and were prepared by Saul Pincus for the site.
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KeymasterI apologize too. Let’s move on!
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KeymasterI’m wondering if you can please check the inside rim of the disc and tell me if it says where the disc was manufactured. Mine was made by Cinram in Canada. What I am guessing is that Cinram manufactured the disc according to the artwork, with 20 tracks.
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KeymasterI’m confused then because I have the top one – witness the scan – and it has 20 tracks both listed on the packaging and on the disc itself.
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KeymasterHow many tracks does your disc have? Not listed on the back, but on the actual disc.
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KeymasterI’ll forgive you for that, but not for coming across as a smug prick. I’m tiring of that.
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KeymasterAll discs are labelled as 1993 – however my original NIGHTMARE disc that is scratched and will not play has 20 tracks. The final track runs 5:05. This disc was manufactured by Cinram.
Here is a side by side scan of the two:
Which disc do you all have?
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Ryan Keaveney
KeymasterThe situation on SM2 was so contentious that Elfman told the filmmakers he wasn’t going to rewrite the temp track. I don’t think Elfman’s “Train/Appreciation” was part of the score proper — it was supposed to be “Anderton’s Great Escape” from MINORITY REPORT tracked right into the picture, if Raimi could have had his way. RCox’s post infers that Young shouldn’t follow Elfman’s blueprint because Raimi thought Elfman’s music was garbage. In fact, it was Elfman’s previous score that Raimi loved too much. That and the tracked in cues from HELLRAISER and MINORITY REPORT have nothing to do with the quality of Elfman’s music, rather the intense love of the temp track and Elfman’s integrity that ultimately had those cues left out of the picture.
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Ryan Keaveney
KeymasterThat’s fine, that’s your opinion.
Now you must wear the scarlett letter

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KeymasterRaimi never threw out Elfman’s music from SPIDER-MAN 2. There was reused material from SPIDER-MAN 1 in the film, for which Elfman had written alternative music for. Ultimately Raimi went with the stuff from 1. I wish everyone would search through the archives of posts here and read up on the entire SPIDER-MAN 2 situation which I have written about extensively. I had hoped it would clear up all the inaccuracies and misconceptions surrounding SM2.
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KeymasterBadelt is a fraud.
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KeymasterThe BROKEBACK theme heard in “The Wings” is a complete rip-off of James Horner’s APOLLO 13.
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KeymasterNicely done. Seems to be some sort of European promo.
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KeymasterI’m not sure if this is the current eps, but Yahoo! Movies lets you watch the program online here.
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KeymasterIt’s so funny that this topic came up because last night I started fiddling with an Elfman suite myself. I am sequencing it in a random order; just picking cues without thinking too much about it and then cutting them down and into the piece. I figured it might be interesting to put together a suite of music that isn’t just big themes and highlights but little bits and pieces.
I usually use Adobe Audition for this type of thing but I’m trying Sony’s Vegas. With Vegas you can even create 5.1 audio, which is kind of cool.
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Ryan Keaveney
KeymasterYou are welcome! Have fun with the music!
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KeymasterIt breaks down like this:
“Serenada Schizophrena” was recorded in Los Angeles with John Mauceri conducting.
DEEP SEA 3D is thirty minutes of score based on material from “Serenada”.
The other 10 additional minutes of score was adapted by Deborah Lurie.
All the music has been recorded.
I emailed Richard Kraft last night to see if there was any plans to release the music and he said there are none at this time. This could change. I don’t consider myself high enough on the foodchain to get fed info like that, so perhaps Mr. Kraft is keeping the details to himself at this time. I am sure some film music outlet will have the news long before I find out!
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KeymasterThey tried to get Elfman for the EDWARD ballet, but he was unavailable, sadly.
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KeymasterYou’re wrong. Elfman wrote thirty minutes of music based on “Serenada” for DEEP SEA 3D. Deborah Lurie wrote an additional 10 minutes based on Elfman’s material. This is all original music for DEEP SEA 3D (the film is a 3D Imax movie, and runs just north of forty-minutes). Elfman managed to record “Serenada” by scoring DEEP SEA, so he didn’t sell out at all. The chance that “Serenada” will now be released on CD is directly because he scored DEEP SEA 3D!
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KeymasterJim Steinman is doing the BATMAN musical. Or at least he was when the project was being developed.
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Ryan Keaveney
KeymasterNo, he saved all that for the director… Ahaha. Sorry, not cool of me, but sooo easy.
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Ryan Keaveney
KeymasterHere’s the advance poster for SM3…
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