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I actually think the existing soundtrack is MORE than long enough. In fact, it wears out its welcome after a while (especially the action stuff). So I’m definitely not down for this.
I think I can say with 99% certainty that HP7 will NOT be nominated. It’s not Oscar territory (unless it had been scored by Williams) and it’s terribly uninteresting. Standard suspense music.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some OTHER score by Desplat gets nominated, though.
elfboy91 Wrote:
> I think it is possible it will get a nomination,
> but I don’t think it’s That Great. I don’t know
> why, maybe it’s me as a musician thinking it is
> more artful when you compose for an orchestra
> rather than a techno score. I really really hope
> TSN doesn’t get a nomination or better yet
> win(best score I mean)!I don’t evaluate how artful something is by what idiom is used to compose it – whether it’s orchestra, techno, jazz, rock or a single guitar.
It’s all in how it sounds and how it’s used.
I’d say THE SOCIAL NETWORK has a chance as a score nominee. There’s the Grieg quote, though, which may or may not rule it out. But I’ve not heard about any quoting from GHOST, whatever that is.
I think your thinking terribly commercial, DIM. The academy usually has at least 1 or 2 more quirky, offbeat scores and then maybe one or two big ones, like the titles you mention.
I can actually see THE SOCIAL NETWORK being nominated. It’s very sophisticated.
Descent Into Mystery Wrote:
> I’ll rather have one of these than 10 superhero
> scores or other noisy affairs.
>
> Everytime we have this debate you assume I’m only
> prefer his action-oriented scores. I’ve said that
> I also like his slower-paced scores like “Black
> Beauty” and “Sommersby.” But, sorry, these “Good
> Will Hunting” and “Simple Plan” type scores are
> just boring Oscar-bait nonsense.Ah yeah, that’s true, we debated this before. I guess that’s because we have very different taste when it comes to film music and even Danny Elfman.
I doubt ALICE will stand a chance, mostly because the film received so many negative reviews. Maybe some technical nominations, but that’s about it. I don’t think Elfman’s score will be part of those, but I would love to be wrong. It’s a great score.
I think it’s absolutely STUNNING, exactly the kind of Elfman I prefer these days (cool ambient textures, calm atmosphere, some Glassian ostinatos). I’ll rather have one of these than 10 superhero scores or other noisy affairs.
I don’t think it sounds anything like THE KINGDOM (which, incidentally, I also find to be one of the most underrated Elfman scores ever!), though.
Yes, I think you should. I don’t remember who said it (Ryan?), but there may be something in the works regarding BLACK BEAUTY.
Yeah, but then both of those used Elfman as a template.
Thanks for the heads-up, Ryan. Sounds interesting. Strange that the composer James Brett doesn’t say anything about the obvious inspiration(s) in that interview.
Yeah, just seems like a fan-made edit of various ads, set to Danny’s theme.
You would think he’d pick something from CHARLIE AND THE CHOCLATE FACTORY instead, though….
It may just sound a bit like the music he did for MODERN VAMPIRES, the similar topic and everything. Or not. Time will show if it ever comes to pass.
Wow, thanks for sharing. Looks like a very interesting project….looks like some sort of music documentary in which Mr. Zuckerman interviews various music luminaries – Ozzy Osbourne, Lenny Kravitz, Ravi Shankar etc.
Will definitely watch this.
That’s a trailer, right? If so, are you sure that’s Elfman’s music?
The “Bourne riff” was definitely all over it in any case.
He also conducted parts of or the whole score to DEAD PRESIDENTS (which doesn’t have that much orchestra in the first place).
bookbinder3 Wrote:
> And at the end of the day, who could score a film
> about a frankenstein-dog better than Mr Danny
> Elfman?Well, what about David Newman, who scored the original FRANKENWEENIE short that Burton did?
Yes, it’s from the original recording – it’s part of a Steve Bartek sampler that I’ve had for a few years. Includes a few bits of unreleased items that are culled from various sources.
I don’t have a bootleg of the whole score, but I have a suite that represents it fairly well. I can’t hear much Elfman in it either, to be honest.
I don’t know about a comprehensive list of Elfman’s score bits in other films and stuff, but I’ve made a pretty comprehensive list of Oingo Boingo songs in films and TV shows that can be read here:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/daily/article.cfm?articleID=6311
paizlea Wrote:
> Dead Man’s Party is my favorite Boingo dance tune,
> it should be enjoyable for just about everyone.
>
> I LOVE Nasty Habits, but I can’t begin to describe
> it musically.Have you heard the various dance beat remixes of PARTY? It’s quite fun.
NASTY HABITS is a great song; I love how the bridge material (the “People act so proper when they’re going ’bout their business, Cup of coffee, lfriendly conversation, ‘Til they get home, ‘Til they get home” bit) almost mimicks ABBA . The rest is kinda ska-meets-Mexican mariachi music or something.
Uhm, you usually have to BUY the albums to hear the songs, Descent (unless you want to go youtubing, but sound quality is usually less than stellar in that case).
I still think the ANTHOLOGY is the way to go.
I agree with much of what you say, boingomusic. Just a few comments:
boingomusic Wrote:
> Well, here are a few things you need to know :
>
> Pre-1980 Oingo Boingo (Called the Mystic Knights
> of the Oingo Boingo) is more jazz orientated.
>
> 1980 “Forbidden Zone” is the switch from jazz to a
> punk/rock bandFORBIDDEN ZONE is the only official release to include any of the Mystic Knights-type 30/40’s jazz style. Also, I wouldn’t call Oingo Boingo punk-rock. Quite the contrary, much of the New Wave scene (of which Boingo is part), was a REACTION to the punk scene, as chronicled in the concert film URGH! A MUSIC WAR. It was rather inspired by ska music (like Madness), but with the ENERGY of punk and some added flavours (brass section, weird percussion) to make it uniquely their own style.
> “Farewell” is their one and only official LIVE
> release. It’s great. It’s really rocky, and noisy,
> like a typicall mid 90’s rock band.True. I would, however, go for the DVD (if you can find it) instead of the double CD. Gives you many other rarities and cool behind-the-scenes stuff as well.
> “Anthology” is the only best of that starts in
> 1980 all the way to 1995. It’s a great way to see
> their evolution.Yeah, I agree with that. Even though BEST O’BOINGO was my own introduction to them (and excellent in that regard), I guess ANTHOLOGY is more comprehensive.
TJ
I am a Boingo completist as much as I am an Elfman completist.
It’s difficult to find ONE representative Boingo album, since they’ve gone through so many different phases.
However, as a starter I would recommend this compilation:
http://www.amazon.com/Best-O-Boingo/dp/B001NSWF6K
…and then seek out the albums according to which tracks you like.
Be aware, that it does not contain any material from their last album, Boingo, which is quite different from all the others anyway. Especially in terms of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers sound that penetrates many tracks, or “Insanity”, which is probably the closest Elfman has been to incorporating his film music sound into Boingo.
“Grey Matter” is also a very unique song. The xylophone riffs (which are awesome!) in an extended instrumental section is not common in their output. The songs are usually quite lyrics-heavy from start to finish.
You might also find this little piece I wrote as interesting – it’s about Oingo Boingo songs in the movies:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/daily/article.cfm?articleID=6311
Good luck!
