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I don’t have an ipod, so I wouldn’t be able to do this even if I wanted to. But I can understand how this allows one to “re-discover” Elfman or at least experience his music in a completely new way. I have often gone through my Elfman collection (on CD) chronologically, through all the style changes. But to be, say, thrown from DOLORES CLAIBORNE to PURE LUCK would be an entertaining punch in the face.
Well, I think it’s a great punchline that I don’t believe has anything whatsoever to do with the actual film or score. The girl sang Christmas carols…so ‘Christmas’. And she sang badly….hence ‘Nightmare’. So ‘Nightmare Before Christmas’. Cruel, yes, but funny.
TJ
elfmanguy Wrote:
> Ok now were off subject! Any release news and is
> serenada being released or is it only going to be
> Deep?Oh, it’s going to be very, very deep….
Sorry about that.
Just to let everyone know that Part 2 of the extensive Elfman Buyer’s Guide is now out on FSM Online. It really digs into the past and concerns Danny’s film and TV scores from TO DIE FOR back to FORBIDDEN ZONE (the first part ended with MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE). It also has a separate section with Boingo songs featured in fiction films from 1977 to 2000 (and brief descriptions of the obscure films).
Of course, you have to subscribe to get access to this.
RCox Wrote:
> Yeah, but isn’t rare for that to be done in a live
> action film?I don’t know how common it is. But I know that it was done on the original PORGY AND BESS film musical, for example.
RCox Wrote:
> > I’m also curious as to how Depp will handle
> Sweeney if this news is true. Sweeney is one of
> the most notoriously difficult parts in all of
> musical theatre in terms of singing. Anyone know
> if Depp is a baritone? Christopher Lee is
> apparantly a trained bass and, if Burton’s
> involvement can be believed, would make a
> wonderful Judge Turpin. Helena Bonham Carter
> would make a brilliant Mrs. Lovette.Well, as you’re probably aware, it’s possible to have someone other than the actor do the singing bits and then synch it all up afterwards (Elfman did just that on NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS).
I don’t see this as a Burton/Depp/Elfman project at all. But hey, I’m glad to be proven wrong.
> Williams… wow, there is a shocker. John Williams
> crap out a score in 2 days and still get
> nominated.Or it could just be that he’s still at the top of his game. MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA is a wonderful listening experience, far more classy than a lot of other contemporary scores in a similiar idiom.
TenderLumpling Wrote:
> Why wouldn’t they be?
>
> Er, because the lyrics aren’t original to Elfman?Ah…..THE LYRICS. Forgot about those.
I’m just into the music.shaunwcomposer Wrote:
> Hey Guys-
>
> I thought that you might like to see that Danny
> Elfman was nominated for Wonka’s Welcome Song.
>
> http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx#
> 22Hmmm…that’s probably the weakest song of all the ones he did for CHARLIE and CORPSE BRIDE combined. But hey, better than nothing.
rkeaveney Wrote:
> Obviously meant as tongue in cheek!
>
> RyanYeah, I figured as much. I just hadn’t noticed it before.
TJ
> Music is never subjective. People’s perceptions of
> it certainly can be–Well yes, that’s what I meant!
sajrocks Wrote:
> Thor – Flubber deserves two stars. I never saw the
> movie, which you obviously hated, but the ablum is
> much more representative of Elfman’s ingenuity
> than you give it credit for. As for “misfire”, I
> believe this was part of his famous 3 picture
> Disney deal… I’m sure the check cleared!Well, music is – as always – subjective. I meant “misfire” in an aestethic sense, not economic.
Elfman is actually my number 2, even though I don’t like to reduce film score fandom to a sporting event. But John Williams is my biggest favourite, followed by Elfman, Goldenthal, Goldsmith, Zimmer, Poledouris and others.
I much rather like to see the idiosyncracies of each individual composer rather than compare them with criteria that don’t match each other.
Well, seriously, what is XM Satelitte Radio anyway? It’s certainly not a station I’ve heard about where I live (in Norway) and I’m sure it’s pretty esoteric in the US as well. So how much of a difference does such a vote really make?
Hmmm…then again, I’ve never really understood the fascination with internet polls, so there you go.
Wow, what a great site! Thanks a lot for the heads-up. I’ve seen much of it before, but not all. Too bad they cannot be downloaded.
Thanks for the comments, TenderLumpling. Allow me to comment on some of your comments.
> Boingo is still referred to as Oingo Boingo.
Well, yes, but I was referring to the fact that their last studio album dropped the “Oingo” moniker.
> I would argue that his most recent endeavor,
> Corpse Bride, sounds more akin to the Mystic
> Knights of the Oingo Boingo, while Charlie, is
> better suited for an Oingo Boingo venue.Yes, I agree. However, THE CORPSE BRIDE hadn’t yet arrived when I finshed the guide. I thought some of the “pop” songs (“Augustus Gloop”, for example) had a very theatrical “pastiche” feel to them, and that’s why I thought Mystic Knights rather than Boingo.
> Is that really Elfman’s fault? The music in the
> [Spiderman 2] album is all Elfman’s.No, I wasn’t blaming Elfman as such. But even though I focus on the album for the most part, I had to make that aside to the score in the film. Also, it is likely that Elfman’s inspiration dwindled somewhat with all the troubles surrounding the score, and that is mirrored in what wound up on the album as well.
> I find that – even though Gladiator did it first –
> right? – the Arabic, moaning voices in Hulk seem
> more integrated into the film and less arbitrary
> than Gladiator. Hulk’s Arabic-sounding female
> vocals were attached to the desert landscapes, and
> that seemed apt with the Middle eastern feel.I’m not so sure I agree. I’ve always thought that music should be independent of geographic verisimilitude in films. So even though the female vocal has a Middle Eastern association, one shouldn’t necessarily adhere to that association every time. I don’t think it’s any more out of place in HULK than it is in GLADIATOR (or vice versa).
> I think that if Danny didn’t score [Mars Attacks] with
> that bombastic tone, it would have been sad
> misreading of the film.Maybe yes. But here I’m talking about how it works as an album.
Edward Bloom Wrote:
> I thought the extras on Planet of the Apes’s dvd
> were exceptionnal. A commentary track and a 13
> minutes featurette, you don’t see that everyday…Well, I’ll admit that I bought the DVD because of the extra features (the film has too many problems to be a worthwhile purchase otherwise). But I must say that I was a bit disappointed with the commentary track. Unlike the brilliant EDWARD SCISSORHANDS commentary, where Elfman actually comments on the things that are happening onscreen, the PLANET commentary seemed just be leftovers from the interview that were pasted in in more or less random spots throughout the film. Same with Burton’s commentary. LAZY!
I’m not working for the FBI or anything, but I think I can safely confirm that that is Danny’s signature. I have a signed poster of MODERN VAMPIRES myself (with both his and Richard Elfman’s signature) and it looks almost the same as the one pictured in your post.
TJ
Mr. Dantz Wrote:
> They’re different and good in their own ways. But
> I’m not going to register on their site to vote.Me neither. I’m a completist of both, however, and while Williams probably is closer to my heart, I wouldn’t want to make a sporting event out of it.
Hi,
I think the only way to get in touch with him for us “mere mortals” is to go through his agency. I don’t remember the agency’s address at the moment (is it Gorfaine/Schwarz or Kraft/Benjamin?). Hopefully, someone else can give you that address. Once you have that, just write him a personal letter (not an e-mail) and hope for the best.
Good luck,
TJ
It’s called ageing, Spider-Fan. It is customary for people in their 50’s to gain weight. However, has anyone seen Peter Jackson lately? He’s dwindled to the skinny guy he used to be when he made things like BAD TASTE….
