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Well, many things that haven’t been released are scores that are too short to get a proper CD release.
I’m talking about short films, commercials, theme park rides, concert works, tv themes or even movies he’s only partially scored (main themes).
In some cases, like Chicago or Anywhere but here, there’s not much more than the main theme that’s already on the song-soundtrack.Other than that, I don’t see many films with full-length unreleased scores…
I actually see WAAAAYYYY more unreleased Oingo Boingo stuff than film scores š
Well, Corpse Bride, Alice, and specially OZ were perfect projects that he honored with his beloved style for fairytales and magic.
He was pretty close to his 90’s roots.But I also have been disppointed with some ideal projects which sounded weaker than I had expected. Goosebumps is a good exemple. Perfect score, but not very strong melodic elements except the short main theme.
I’d say my biggest disappointment was Frankenweenie, which really lacked a melodic and memorable theme approach.
It was instead closer to “Meet the robinsons” or “Peabody and Sherman”.Only time will tell.
But it’s hard not to expect the perfect score.Well… Grinch = mischievous christmas.
When I hear “Christmas”, “Mischievous” and “Elfman” in the same project, I become really excited.
That’s what Nightmare Before Christmas was all about, and some parts of Batman Returns as well.
Elfman & Christmas go well together. In my opinion, almost better than Elfman & Halloween (if Oingo Boingo doesn’t count).
No, let’s just hope he goes for a more theme-oriented score approach, instead of a Dark-Christmas-Mood-DNA approach.
After Justice League, here is another opportunity to go back to his roots. I loved his work on Justice League, technically. But
not thematically. I really hope it will be all about themes and melodies. After all, even James Horner did some “Elfmanisms” with his Grinch score.
Man… i donāt understand why everyone is so disappointed with these tracks.
I mean, I get why Zimmer-fans are not happy.
Because this is high quality music and they definitely canāt understand it because Elfmanās music is too complex for them.But come on, Elfman fans. You canāt react like that. Nobody knows how Heroās theme is used in the movie. Maybe it simply doesnāt need an epic theme at that specific moment.
I donāt care if itās epic or not.
I just like the track. Itās clever, it definitely has a strong Elfman vibe. The Batman theme is present in many ways.
The only thing that surprises me is the way the electronics sometimes cut in, just as if they were edited, cutting the orchestra to get in.
But this is definitely a choice he made.
And Iām sure Iāll get used to it.Thank you for this nice interview Thor.
Loved the questions and the way you put all this together.Thank you !
Yeah it was great to see him react to other composersā music !
Camillu, Iām sorry you had such a disappointing experience. There probably was a reason why he acted like this.
Iāve seen him many times, and heās always been a gentleman.
He spent the whole week in Vienna, going from rehearsals to master classes, and from interviews to lectures. I guess he needed some time for himself.
His team is usually very nice and professional.
Iāve seen and talked to Laura Engel several times and sheās always been nice. Although she can be very protective sometimes.I hope youāll have another chance to see him.
I remember one of the producers from the Burton / Elfman concert was very rude, several times, with a few fans. The rest of the team was actually shocked by the way he reacted.
These things happen.Hereās a video of all the bits Iāve filmed during the evening.
The Sam Raimi speech is at 11 minutes.
I made the video private so that it canāt be searched on YouTube.
I wanted your thoughts on whether I should make it public or not. Knowing thereās going to be an official broadcast. Maybe itās best to keep it as a private link. I donāt know…
What do you guys think I should do?
Enjoy the video :
Thor, then I know EXACTLY who you are !!!
Man, I wish we could have talked to each other. I thik I’ve actually filmed parts of your interview with him !!!
I’m uploading everything right now. So, you will have videos very soon.
I didn’t film the whole concert because I really wanted to enjoy the live thing. I also knew that ORF will broadcast the whole event very soon on television. So, it’s just a matter of time before you can enjoy the full concert in high quality.For now, I have videos of the Red Carpet, a few moments from the concert, Sam Raimi’s speech, Tim Burton’s message, the Hollywood in Vienna team speech, and Danny’s acceptance speech.
Just a few more hours to wait and it will be online !
ddddeeee, there’s a review i wrote last night, just above. It describes the whole set list.
Ok guys. So hereās a little feedback from the Gala concert in Vienna.
Danny arrived on the red carpet and took time to do several interviews. He shook hands with us and took time to talk and even accepted to take a picture with me.
The first half of the concert was a series of suites from LaLaLand, Lion King, Narnia, Beauty and the beast, Finding Neverland, Life of Pi, Mulan, Final Fantasy 8. Interesting suites.
Then, after the break, we got to hear brand new suites written by Elfman for the occasion.
Spider-Man, the original main titles, with a slight different orchestration.
Then a Medley, that started with Black Beauty, And faded to Milk, Men In Black and ended amazingly with Avengers. Great arrangements.
Then we got a suite of Sommersby. Great new arrangement that ended up with the ācountryā theme, with a country band that played with the orchestra. Absolutely perfect.
After that, we heard a great suite from The Wolfman. Very powerful.
Then, they moved to the Burton repertoire.
It started with the original Alice theme.
BeetleJuice came next, with a great new arrangement. Without the intro. Straight into the main theme.
Then, a few singers came on stage and performed an amazing version of This is Halloween.
During Edward Scissorhands, two Ballet dancers were dancing between the seats, looking like Edward and Kim. Graceful.
Batman and Batman returns. Again, a new suite. Shorter than the Burton/Elfman concerts.
This part ended with a brand new suite for the Simpsons. A great suite of variations on the main theme. Specially written by Danny.
Surprising, funny, and clever.The whole concert was synchronized to beautiful animations made for this concert, along with images from the movies. The lighting and the videos were simply perfect with the music.
Then, Hollywood In Vienna organizer came on stage and did a beautiful speech about Elfman and read a message from Tim Burton, congratulating him on his award and thanking him for his music and friendship.
Then, they screened a very moving video of Sam Raimi, telling how much he loves Danny, even if he knows Danny hated him for a couple years. He explained theyāre both too passionate about their work, and how itās thanks to Danny that he got passionate as well. He ended his speech by saying āI love youā.
It was wonderful to hear this, specially after what they went through a few years ago.Finally, Danny came on stage to accept the award. He did a beautiful speech, and then proposed to sing.
He sang āWhatās thisā. The beginning of the song was perfect, but when he got to the middle, his voice was barely audible. I think his emotions took over and he didnāt have enough breath to sing. It was actually very moving.
He got several standing ovations.
The whole evening was a success.
Wonderful experience.
I have many videos.
Iāll put them together when I get back home and Iāll post it for you guys.
I really wish you could have all been here to see this.
Time for bed now.
Man!!! Iām at Gmoakeller. I waited a little bit before realizing that the gathering was yesterday!!! Sorry I missed it.
Going to the concert tonight.
I hope you guys had fun !
Hi Thor,
Thank you so much for organizing this.
Iām traveling with my father and I donāt know if i can manage to join you all at Gmoakeller.
I will definitely do my best.
Hope to see you there.Eric
Hi !
I’m sorry it took me so long to answer !!!
I’m going to the Gala Ceremony on friday the 29th.
It would be a pleasure to meet anyone from this board !
Yes I watched it. It’s basically a 15-minute Elfman interview. With some images of the ballet rehearsals.
I was hoping it would be longer and that we’d get some images from the orchestra sessions and some footage from the ballet itself.
Anyway, the Elfman interview was quite nice and it’s interesting to hear that the whole recording and CD+DVD release was Elfman’s own project. He paid himself for the recording. Even the 15minute featurette is produced by Elfman and his team.And the 5.1 mix is wonderful. It’s great to hear this music with such depth.
The DVD on the release will have a 5.1 version as well as footage from the recording sessions, an interview with Danny Elfman and other additional features.
Great news !!!!
Wow!!! The score for “The Circle” is absolutely stunning!
Good to hear some electronics again, and it’s so subtle, rich and intelligent!Wisdom 2.0, 30 years later !!!
I knew it š
Here you go : Rabbit & Rogue 2-CD set, released on June 2nd.
https://www.cede.ch/fr/music/?release_cat=1&branch_sub=0&sort=4&search=elfman&branch=1
I just got an email back from Hollywood In Vienna confirming they plan to perform non-burton scores as well.
Yes, exactly. They broadcast it on TV and radio, and it’s also on YouTube in HD.
I just read the informations on their website. They only mention Burton films and the Simpsons.
So, maybe that’s the reason why it happened so quickly. They might have given up on the other non-burton soundtrack suites…
edit : I just emailed them to have more informations.I got mine from http://www.cede.ch
Real cd, not a CD-R. Got Girl on train there as well and it was a real cd as well.
I forgot to add that there are a few AMAZING tracks that have that medieval kind of sound (flute, guitar and some medieval percussion), like “streets” and “streets – part 2”.
Yes, I got the cd today as well. I didn’t expect so many melodic lines. It’s definitely similar to what Elfman has been doing for the pas few years. A lot of string-work. Some percussion. The melody is piano-driven. Clearly reminiscent of the Unknown Known. But some parts remind me OZ as well, which is a good thing.
It’s interesting, listening to this, I realized that Elfman’s rythmic violin layers have been around for a long time now, and he seems to use this type of writting all the time nowadays. I believe the first time I heard him use this was with the Spiderman Theme. Then he used it in Red Dragon, again with Charlie and the chocolate factory, Then Alice. And itÅ been around ever since.
As a kid, Elfman’s style was recognizable because of its magical elements, such as the celesta, music boxes, choirs. Or with its wackyness with Beetlejuice or the Simpsons.
Now, those rythmic layers of violins have definitely become a new fingerprint.
Samples are available at this Swiss cd-shop :
https://www.cede.ch/fr/music/?view=detail&branch_sub=0&id=1391833&branch=1
