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- October 14, 2010 at 2:47 pm in reply to: Elfman to perform at the El Capitan Theater in Hollywood?? #58715johnmullinParticipant
Sorry, just a quote from my favorite holiday movie, Bad Santa.
October 13, 2010 at 5:18 pm in reply to: Elfman to perform at the El Capitan Theater in Hollywood?? #66131johnmullinParticipantWait, “performance”? You mean, like, sexual?
johnmullinParticipantAccording to Amazon, Lion’s Gate Records will put out a NEXT THREE DAYS soundtrack on November 16th, but it’s not yet clear if it will be songs or score. The listing says “various artists,” but it could just be that they don’t know either!
johnmullinParticipantNo, I hadn’t caught the bit about REAL STEEL or any of his other projects! And it’s nice to know that indeed he’ll be doing MIB3!
johnmullinParticipantYeah, I’m thrilled that they’re leaving the songs off of BATMAN RETURNS, BEETLEJUICE, EDWARD SCISSORHANDS, BIG FISH, MARS ATTACKS (and any others than might have had them)… It leaves more room for unreleased score.
The BIG FISH album had, what, 39 minutes of score on it? The new one looks like it’s going to be closer to 76 minutes, something that there wouldn’t be real estate for if they had tried to license the songs again for the set (which, by the way, might have jacked the price up even higher).
johnmullinParticipantYES!
It’s my childhood in a box! (please don’t think of the Justin Timberlake / Andy Samberg song here)
johnmullinParticipantHoly crap! Expansion of THIRTEEN of their scores together? That’s all of them, isn’t it?
I wasn’t sure if I was going to pony up the cash for this one, but I don’t think I’m going to be able to say no!
johnmullinParticipantI love the score to CABIN BOY, and I have a soft spot for the movie, awful as it is.
The movie came out in really early 1994, as I recall, and I have a hunch that Disney decided to dump it there after it didn’t test well. So… it was probably completed mid-1993, which is probably around the time the Burton-Elfman dustup happened. My suspicion is that Elfman felt he ultimately deserved more credit for shaping the film than he got, and that was part of the trigger. That probably happened when the film was in its home stretch.
Anyway, regardless of that, I’m sure Elfman was very happy that Bartek got the job or any other one. I don’t hear a lot of Elfman in Steve’s music , honestly, but there are certain phrasing things that the two certainly have in common. I’d love for this score (and much of Bartek’s other work) to get out someday. Hell, I’d even take a good bootleg of it, but I don’t think even that is in circulation.
August 23, 2010 at 7:11 am in reply to: Help Bring back Elfman/Burton/Keaton for a Batman Beyond Film! #65928johnmullinParticipantYeah man, that’s what BATMAN BEYOND is all about! An elderly Bruce Wayne guiding a young Batman in the future. Get Adam West and Justin Beiber, and you’ve got yourself a picture!
August 22, 2010 at 6:53 pm in reply to: Help Bring back Elfman/Burton/Keaton for a Batman Beyond Film! #65926johnmullinParticipantIf they do a BATMAN BEYOND with Adam West, I’m totally there.
johnmullinParticipantHuh… it’s due to hit US theaters by the end of November. I guess this helps enforce the “scheduling conflicts” story that was attached to his GREEN HORNET departure. Movie looks good, but I’d rather see him on HORNET between the two.
johnmullinParticipantWOLFMAN is awesome! I don’t really like T4 much apart from a few cues (the main title, “Broadcast” and “The Reveal.”)
johnmullinParticipantI love JNH. I’m sad it’s not Danny, but JNH is usually very interesting, and I think he’s got tremendous range. I love love love THE LAST AIRBENDER. NANNY MCPHEE 2, however, is like whimsical torture.
johnmullinParticipantThis sounds like Hollywood speak for “they didn’t like some of the early demos he gave them.”
I suppose there could be some kind of internal freak out at the studio, though. The trailer was not well-received at all. When I heard that Gondry was doing it, I was excepting something more imaginative and crazy than what the trailer suggested it will be. That is to say, a kinda dumb-looking action-comedy.
That said, any new Elfman score is good news in my book, and I’m still holding out hope that reports of his departure have been greatly exaggerated.
johnmullinParticipantAre you sure about this? I know that JNH is supposed to do THE GREEN _LANTERN_ for Martin Campbell.
johnmullinParticipantSounds like they’re planning to announce something if record executives are to be there….
johnmullinParticipantSince it’d be a Universal movie, Elfman would again not be able to use any of his Pee Wee themes, either from BIG ADVENTURE (Warner Bros) or BIG TOP (Paramount).
Nevertheless, it’d be really cool if he returned to do the picture. NACHO LIBRE is the closest sort of thing he done to it in a long time, although I didn’t think that movie had much going for it as a whole.
johnmullinParticipantWow, that’d be awesome. I hope it’s true!
johnmullinParticipantCool. I’ve heard that the director’s cut is quite an improvement. When I saw the theatrical cut, I felt that the first part of the movie was just completely hacked to bits. They blew through it so fast that things like “set up” and “motivation” were completely lost.
The theatrical cut doesn’t start using much of Elfman’s material until “Gypsy Massacre.” Everything before that… “Prologue,” “Dear Mr. Talbot,” “Wake Up, Lawrence,” “The Funeral” was all omitted and replaced by the Pope material. So if any of those are in the director’s cut, it’s probably mostly the original sessions. Pope also did a handful of actiony cues toward the very pre-credit end.
johnmullinParticipantI don’t know, but it certainly could. The version that Elfman scored at the end of summer 09 was apparently around 2 hours. Most of the music that Conrad Pope did was for scenes that had been trimmed way down for the theatrical version (the 103 minute one), mainly because Elfman’s score didn’t come anywhere close to fitting anymore. Obviously, the Pope material wouldn’t fit the “long” version, which restores a lot of scenes in the first 1/3 of the movie. If the producers didn’t object to what Elfman ultimately recored for those scenes, there’s no reason to think that they wouldn’t use it.
April 30, 2010 at 10:00 pm in reply to: Two Former Elfman Franchises Compete Against Each Other! #65395johnmullinParticipantWell, I think Danny might still be a possibility for MEN IN BLACK III.
johnmullinParticipantThey made 3 TV sequels to Midnight Run made in 1994, actually.
Another Midnight Run
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109138/Midnight Runaround
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110511/Midnight Run For Your Life
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110510/All terrible!
johnmullinParticipantI saw ALICE today. In the end credits, I remember seeing…
Additional _Arrangements_ – TJ Lindgren and Deborah Lurie
johnmullinParticipantShearmur and Lindgren were involved from the beginning. Because Elfman had to score the movie early, they were there both to help Elfman make it to the original recording dates (the ones where all the material that’s on the album was recorded), and also to be familiar with the music in case they had to step in and compose music for the pick up sessions, should Elfman be unavailable due to ALICE IN WONDERLAND.
They were NOT involved with the pick-up sessions that ultimately did happen with Conrad Pope in January, however. That was all Pope, who seemingly did not use any of Elfman’s thematic material in his music anyway (not sure if there are legal reasons for that or what).
johnmullinParticipantSound clips! Lots of choir!
http://disneymusic.disney.go.com/albums/aliceinwonderland.html
The CD is reportedly around 45 minutes.
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