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Since it’d be a Universal movie, Elfman would again not be able to use any of his Pee Wee themes, either from BIG ADVENTURE (Warner Bros) or BIG TOP (Paramount).
Nevertheless, it’d be really cool if he returned to do the picture. NACHO LIBRE is the closest sort of thing he done to it in a long time, although I didn’t think that movie had much going for it as a whole.
Cool. I’ve heard that the director’s cut is quite an improvement. When I saw the theatrical cut, I felt that the first part of the movie was just completely hacked to bits. They blew through it so fast that things like “set up” and “motivation” were completely lost.
The theatrical cut doesn’t start using much of Elfman’s material until “Gypsy Massacre.” Everything before that… “Prologue,” “Dear Mr. Talbot,” “Wake Up, Lawrence,” “The Funeral” was all omitted and replaced by the Pope material. So if any of those are in the director’s cut, it’s probably mostly the original sessions. Pope also did a handful of actiony cues toward the very pre-credit end.
I don’t know, but it certainly could. The version that Elfman scored at the end of summer 09 was apparently around 2 hours. Most of the music that Conrad Pope did was for scenes that had been trimmed way down for the theatrical version (the 103 minute one), mainly because Elfman’s score didn’t come anywhere close to fitting anymore. Obviously, the Pope material wouldn’t fit the “long” version, which restores a lot of scenes in the first 1/3 of the movie. If the producers didn’t object to what Elfman ultimately recored for those scenes, there’s no reason to think that they wouldn’t use it.
They made 3 TV sequels to Midnight Run made in 1994, actually.
Another Midnight Run
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109138/Midnight Runaround
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110511/Midnight Run For Your Life
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110510/All terrible!
I saw ALICE today. In the end credits, I remember seeing…
Additional _Arrangements_ – TJ Lindgren and Deborah Lurie
Shearmur and Lindgren were involved from the beginning. Because Elfman had to score the movie early, they were there both to help Elfman make it to the original recording dates (the ones where all the material that’s on the album was recorded), and also to be familiar with the music in case they had to step in and compose music for the pick up sessions, should Elfman be unavailable due to ALICE IN WONDERLAND.
They were NOT involved with the pick-up sessions that ultimately did happen with Conrad Pope in January, however. That was all Pope, who seemingly did not use any of Elfman’s thematic material in his music anyway (not sure if there are legal reasons for that or what).
Sound clips! Lots of choir!
http://disneymusic.disney.go.com/albums/aliceinwonderland.html
The CD is reportedly around 45 minutes.
Yeah, and the first two tracks are like that too. They were also recorded with no specific picture in mind… it was “extra” music to be used wherever they needed it.
Conrad Pope said that the movie will be nearly all Danny. He helped reshape a little toward the beginning and the end, and only a few interstitial bits during the body of the picture.
Elfman supposedly recorded around 75 minutes (66 of which will be on the CD!)
The rumor is that Pope recorded somewhere around 20.
During the time the score was “out,” Elfman gave promotional CDs to many people who worked on the sessions, totaling around 66 minutes. My guess is that the Varese album won’t be THAT long, but hopefully a good chunk of it will make it on there.
Yes… BUT expect what he originally did to be pretty hacked up in the movie, and mixed in with a good deal of additional music by other composers.
i have been told that there are still big decisions to made about the music for this movie. It comes out in about six weeks, so they’d better decide fast!
The Elfman scores I love most these days are all from this decade…
THE FAMILY MAN
HULK
SPIDER-MAN 2
CORPSE BRIDE
CHARLOTTE’S WEB
HELLBOY 2Starting around 03-04, I think his music has been better than its ever been (not to discount his earlier output).
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This is the worst news I’ve heard recently. Elfman had already written and recorded the f***ing thing! I hope some label sees fit to do a “music inspired by” album.
Well, I know that, but since it was a one-man job for everything, couldn’t it have been one big credit?
Sort of like “Written and Directed By” ?
Doesn’t he have two music credits in end titles? Something like “words and music by Danny Elfman” and then “original score by Danny Elfman?” I always thought that was strange.
This is a very subjective question, but I will say that in 2008 he wrote four very interesting and diverse scores, and I loved all four of them. HELLBOY II in particular in one of my all time favorites.
My least favorite period of his music is from 1998 – 2001. I just don’t listen to (or especially like) much of what he wrote there. If you asked me this question then, I might have been a little more downbeat. Since 2004 or so, however, his music has arguably been better than it has ever been, producing several works that I’ve enjoyed playing over and over — SPIDER-MAN 2, SERENADA SCHIZOPHRANA, CHARLOTTE’S WEB, et al.
