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Not right? If you think so, but not me, I still find myself listening to the “Anywhere But Here” suite and wish that someday we can here what he intended for that film. I find the subtler scores take more time and listens to sink in, like all good music should. The fact that Elfman can also do this with his more ear-grabbing scores is just a testament to his greatness. I loved having “S.O.P.” to play after “Wanted”, “Taking Woodstock” after “Terminator Salvation”, or “Kingdom” to play after listening to “Spider-man 2”. I think it allows him to stay fresh when he mixes in something like “Milk” in between scores like “Hellboy 2” and “Wolfman” – it’s the fact that he did Milk that makes the louder scores around them so much better. And I absolutely LOVE “A Simple Plan” and wish that he got more chances to play with scores to films like these where you hear him use interesting sounds. It’s as if the more subdued scores are his personal sonic playgrounds where he gets to think more vertical like with “Dolores Claiborne” and that’s what infuses the more horizontal score of “Mission Impossible”. Of course when I speak of vertical and horizontal musically, I’m speaking of harmony as opposed to rhythm.
I’ve said my peace and that’s all I can do, I’m happy we all can find something to like in his music, some of us can just find more.
NatreboParticipantOf JNH scores I would recommend – Dinosaur and Atlantis, the Lost Legend. I know they are two animated films but they are really well scored animated films, especially Dinosaur! I remember an issue of Keyboard Magazine with an interview of him about MIDI orchestration with a link to the opening sequence as a midi file (it was highly detailed and very interesting to study).
NatreboParticipantI rather have some more intimate Elfman scores, there’s been too much bombast of late. Although I just found out that Paul Haggis wrote 196 episodes of Walker: Texas Ranger… why would you take credit for that – it was one of the most unintentionally funny shows ever – Loved the Conan lever!
NatreboParticipantWE already knew… do you think that they took the time to READ the other Forum posts?
NatreboParticipantTry on Hermann’s Symphony, there are things in it that makes me think Elfman has heard that piece before!
NatreboParticipantI believe Elfman added a intro into Religious Man… or at least that’s what it sounds like on the boot.
NatreboParticipantI’ve always wondered if PIXAR ever talked to Burton about directing a film for them since some of his other animation alums from school like Bird and Lassiter have such a pull? It would be interesting for him to Direct and have control over a film of the PIXAR caliber. I haven’t seen “Waking Sleeping Beauty” yet or read how well he got along with his classmates so I don’t know what their relationships were like or are now…. if that makes any since, but PIXAR has always had a high stamp of creative ideals that seem right up his ally if he comes up with a new story to tell.
My pennies worth anyways.
NatreboParticipantBefore he didn’t get to choose like he does now. Flubber was because of the 5 movie contract he signed with Disney. Even though the big studio contract days (where a studio would have sole control over an actor or composer) are over doesn’t mean that no multi-movie contracts are still signed. We hear about this with actors all the times, if a studio thinks there will be sequels to be made from a movie they will sign an actor to a multi-movie deal – the same sometimes happens to a composer. in a five year period you have to score at least 5 movies from one company and of those you are given a choice of maybe half their films we can easily see why Danny would do something like Flubber (if nothing else than to just fulfill his contract).
Nat
NatreboParticipantHe’s also appeared on recent episodes of the web series “The Guild”.
NatreboParticipantSounds a bit like Phillip Glass.
NatreboParticipantActually I find myself liking a lot of Zimmer’s output these days, more so than some of the composers that’s come out of Remote Control. I did find a lull in his middle output, at least for me, but he can create a good listen from time to time – case in point was the hoot he had with Sherlock Holmes, a film I was all ready to hate being a fan of the novellas and various TV shows, but I was pleasantly surprised!
NatreboParticipantLike Goldsmith returned to score the original third Apes film, “Escape from the Planet of the Apes” which took place in a then modern day 1970s… hence the jazzy funk score he composed.
NatreboParticipantIf history repeats itself then Elfman will return to score the third film using a jazzy funk sound.
NatreboParticipantHappy, happy birthday toooooooooaaaaaaaaaa yoooooooooooooooouuuu!!!!!
Thanks for giving us this place to hang out!!!
NatreboParticipantHis score for Serenada Schizophrana is available in the Online score section of http://www.schirmer.com if you are a member (Note: You only can print it three times because they use LizardLock on the PDF files).
NatreboParticipantI believe Flubber happened because he signed a deal to score a few Disney films and that turned out to be one of them… It occasionally happens that composers will sign a deal with a studio, just like Bands will sign a deal with a record label for X amount of albums.
March 3, 2010 at 11:57 pm in reply to: Burton to produce new Abe Lincoln: Vampire Hunter film #65230NatreboParticipantThey should let Richard Elfman Direct it – he knows his cheese!
NatreboParticipantHere is the video for the book advertisement campaign…
I wanted to call it a trailer… is it a trailer if it’s for a book?
NatreboParticipantThe whole idea of minimalism is that things are changing, only at a much slower rate.
NatreboParticipantOttman is no Williams, or Elfman… Ottman can’t help that – bless his heart.
NatreboParticipantMy favorite score of 2006 was Pan’s Labyrinth, as for the best… who knows.
NatreboParticipantWhen I read that part all I was thinking was… the CD probably won’t have the final version on it, so the CD will be different than the film version.
NatreboParticipantMost of his work including both Symphonies, his recent song cycles (of Bob Dylan and Dylan Thomas), Circus Maximus, and the full manuscript of his Opera ‘Ghosts of Versailles’ – also suites from the Red Violin and Alter States. It contains everything that I have of his on CD and more! It’s a great resourse.
Also of interest are complete scores from composers Richard Danielpour and Joan Tower.
NatreboParticipantAnyone interested to know that the full score to Serenada Schizophrana is available through schirmer.com to anyone who receives a pass to their free online library. In order to get a pass you have to send in an online form confirming that you work in a music/book related field… as a textbook manager I was able to get a pass, but all the PDF files for the scores (that also include a large amount of John Corigliano manuscripts) have exceptions – some you can only view, but most allow you to view up to 20 times and print up to three times. Please keep in mind that if you print the 5 movement score Serenada you should print it all at once (saving two more times), or in three sections because if you try to print each movement, then by the fourth movement you won’t be able to print.
For anyone who can, Enjoy,
Nat
NatreboParticipantYeah, but those have been for friends.
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