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I’ve been listening to this so much. He covers so many styles. I wish he did one of these every year!
TenderLumplingParticipantAre we ever going to get a score release?
TenderLumplingParticipantI forgot that they used the Elfman piece when I saw it today. What a pleasant surprise.
I was also surprised that Rango’s theme is also Nino Rota’s from Il Casanova.
TenderLumplingParticipant“Alice” is way too melodic to be nominated for an academy award.
November 30, 2010 at 8:21 pm in reply to: Batman Returns Limited Edition 2cd from LaLaLand Records #66263TenderLumplingParticipantAs for the expanded content, the OST was about 65 minutes while score in the film is closer to 90. Plus there are a lot of Alts. I’m so down for this!
Indeed. I appreciate the effort that went into this one. Looks great!
TenderLumplingParticipantBut, sorry, these “Good Will Hunting” and “Simple Plan” type scores are just boring Oscar-bait nonsense.
If you think those scores were Elfman trying to get an Oscar, you’re absolutely wrong.
TenderLumplingParticipantThree things:
• Let’s stop using the word “bombast.” It doesn’t mean anything. In the same way the word “haunting” doesn’t.
• A Simple Plan is one of Elfman’s best scores, and is a masterpiece: Scientific fact! ()
• Will any of Elfman’s material make it into the Green Hornet? Or are they starting completely from scratch?
TenderLumplingParticipantNo.
I’m sure I’ll get it used some day, but, as others have said, too expensive. If they were smart, they should release a CD of all the unreleased material.
TenderLumplingParticipantThere’s a lot of great live stuff on youtube to watch.
Give these a listen:
“Cinderella Undercover”-Oingo Boingo live video from ’90 Halloween
“Sweat”-Oingo Boingo live video from ’90 Halloween
“Nothing To Fear”-Oingo Boingo live video footage from US Festival
“Who Do You Want To Be”-Oingo Boingo live video footage from the US Festival
“Good For Your Soul”-Oingo Boingo live video from ’90 Halloween
“Little Girls”-Oingo Boingo live video from ’90 Halloween
Oingo Boingo – Commando Girls (1980 live)
Oingo Boingo – Something Isn’t Right (1980 live) *rare*TenderLumplingParticipantAlso, synthesized horns. Criminal.
How do you know that the horns are synthetic?
TenderLumplingParticipantBOINGO ALIVE! Let that marinade for a while and then get the rest.
TenderLumplingParticipantIn this case, it’s a matter of a film that is clearly molded on the same “dark superhero” style that made BATMAN so popular.
Even though The Shadow’s score is far more modern, despite taking place in the 40s.
TenderLumplingParticipantSo, whatever Elfman-esque sounds you hear in the Shadow score is just Jerry Goldsmith trying to please his bosses.
Bingo.
TenderLumplingParticipantI think we can agree to disagree that this sounds more like Batman than The Shadow.
Listen at 3:00:
TenderLumplingParticipantIt’s especially evident in the wide-open interval leaps of the main theme, the very dramatic, gothic style that he defined with BATMAN.
There’s a theme in The Burbs (1988) that has that same gothic style. Elfman isn’t the owner of that style, he just, very wisely, made it popular. So who’s imitating who?
TenderLumplingParticipantAside from the main title, which sounds like Waxman’s Prince Valiant, everything else in The Shadow sounds like a Jerry Goldsmith score.
Take this, for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT-Thhj_jmM
Aside from the “Hammer horror” brass, Jerry’s fingerprints are all over this.
TenderLumplingParticipantNice! I can’t wait to see the track list on that baby.
TenderLumplingParticipantI don’t know. That’s pretty vague. Perhaps you could point to two cues that I can compare. I have both albums.
TenderLumplingParticipantthe whole thing is DRENCHED in Elfman “ambiance”
Hmm, could you be a little more specific?
TenderLumplingParticipantOh, I think this is fantastic! I just think most people here felt this was a foregone conclusion. Anyhow, I can’t WAIT to hear the alternate cues. What a dream come true.
TenderLumplingParticipantSure. But I don’t see how that makes it related to Warner Bros. It’s obviously going to be Beetlejuice Goes to Hawaii and the animatic’s that Elfman scored of Superman Lives!
TenderLumplingParticipantOh brother! I bet Batman was temped from top to bottom on the Shadow! Still a cool score, though. Love the percussion and the Waxman touches.
TenderLumplingParticipantLittle Demons is Disney.
TenderLumplingParticipantSomeone find out if Paul Rubens is attending. *wink wink*
TenderLumplingParticipantI guess Big Top doesn’t count as a sequel. But, nonetheless, it was the first time Elfman re-visited a character.
Really? They reference the first movie with the tequila dance.
At any event, Elfman/Pee-wee music written today(!) would be a welcomed gift.
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