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I agree, great movie. Brad Silberling, the director, worked on “Moonlight Mile” in my town and he seemed to know how to run things. I wasn’t thrilled with the music in “Lemony Snicket,” but then again Thomas Newman has never really thrilled me. He has a style that lacks major themes, which I am a big fan of. One would think that Danny Elfman would have worked on this movie considering the crew: producer Scott Rudin produced Sleepy Hollow. Producer Barry Sonnenfeld directed both Men in Black films. Colleen Atwood designed costumes for this and most of Tim Burton’s movies. You’d think that they would have just gone all the way with hiring Danny Elfman to complete the Tim Burton experience. At least he was used for the promos, for which I hope Danny gets a lot of money.
Not many people would do that because they know that if Danny ever ran into them, their asses would receive many a kicking. Or maybe that’s just me.
The last time I heard a Danny Elfman score in an IMAX theater (Spidey 2), I nearly had a heart attack. If Charlie is good in the regular theater, I might give it a try in IMAX.
Williams’s score for this film will rival most of his recent scores over the past decade. I have high expectations that I’m sure that he’ll meet quite well. Still, the notion of Danny scoring it thrills me.
We miss out on all of the great ride scores in the US! Abroad, the get Horner and Debney and Elfman. Yet Disney World has some great music. There’s a thread about it way down there somewhere.
The way Johnny Depp says “ew”…seems a bit feminine to me. This movie will definitely apeal to a big crowd, but unfortunately that crowd is stoners. And of course people like us as well.
Heh, looks…interesting. I assume Danny wrote the song? I expect much more out of the score. Wait, was that him singing that song?!?!
I’ve just re-found a piece on the Spidey 2 DVD with unknown origins. It’s the very big, brassy 3-note piece after Danny speaks for the first time and during the “Sound and Music” title in Making the Amazing. It popped into my head when I woke up this morning but didn’t have time to find it before school, so I just went and found it. I wonder what it originally was…
Heh, forgot about the Grammys and that Big Fish was still in the picture! Too bad it’s up against ROTK, but at least the Grammys don’t hate Danny like the Academy does.
I just found the “Happy Montage” during the Directing segment of “Making the Amazing” that was discussed. I have to admit that I liked “Raindrops” better in that scene. The music sounds very much like Big Fish, and it didn’t seem Spidey enough for the scene.
Heh, contact Danny Elfman. A dream of all of us. None of this excellent music is available anywhere, except the original close-up swinging music after the planetarium party on the 2nd disc of the DVD.
HELL NO. All of us are bothered by it. Danny Elfman wrote some amazing cues that did not make the film. Although it would be awesome if the original scoring made it onto the 2.5 DVD, it’s unlikely that it’s going to happen. It would take a lot of time to do and it’s supposed to come out in February.
If I had a fansite, I’d drop by every now and then. Then again, Danny is a very busy guy, so he’s got no obligations to be here.
Actually, I was bored so I decided to browse this site for places I never lurked around in and came across this interview he did about 4 years ago:
“Q: Do you keep in touch with your fan sites in the net?
A: No. I feel that if I start doing that, I’ll have to get involved… It’s like my first years as a composer, when I was under attack all the time from the film composing community, because of the misinformation. At a certain point I was spending so much energy to defend myself, that I just stopped. Forget it. Let them say what they want, let them spread lies. And it’s the same about the web sites, unless I get involved, there is a lot of misinformation, lots of people saying things… And it’s not worth it. Because I’ll start defending myself, correcting this and that and there’s not enough time in my day to do these minimal things. I find that it’s a waste of energy trying to defend oneself, trying to correct the misperceptions, you know what I mean? When I started getting e-mail, I felt it was really time consuming, because some people get really wrapped up in weird little things, and rumours, and even personal things. And I thought: that’s what they want. They want your reaction. Ultimately I ended up going – “this is just a huge energy drain, I don’t want to fight with this person, let them say whatever they want!” If they want to say that I go out in the world and f-ck goats, then I just ignore it or say, “yes, I love it!”. If they want to say that I steal all my music from a slave composer that I’ve got chained up on my basement whom I feed scraps of bread to – good, yes, I do that! In fact I have ten of them down there! If people want to say that they have the missing tape of me singing the entire score to “Batman” that I gave to a composer who actually wrote the score… Why am I trying to defend myself from such a stupid and absurd thing? “Yes, of course, I sing all my scores and give them to a composer and he does all the work and then I show up a month later and take all the credit!” So, when things go to that level, it’s so crazy and you have so much of it that it’s better just to…
Q: Just sit and watch?
A: Yeah, it’s better just to sit and watch and go, yes! I do this! Something else writes my music! I’m a pederast! I’m into bestiality! Necrophelia! Come on, lay it on! (Laughs)”
Interesting bit of info that I never came across.
Nin_Cherry is right. Maybe a few of the classic composers have passed away, but there are so many other young composers who admire their work and want to keep their legacy going.
Sorry, but I have absolutely no respect for emo bands. I’m strictly film score. Actually, I get angry when emo people discuss Danny Elfman because they don’t give a damn about his music but rather they love anything with a dark tone. Another reason I’m not a fan of emo is because Dashboard Confessional had the primary song for Spider-Man 2, and that song both took up credits space and was not anything close to what “Hero” was. I have spoken.
Today, day 3 of my ownership of the DVD, I watched the movie for the third time with the Sam Raimi/Tobey Maguire/Avi Arad/Grant Curtis commentary. Nothing revealing said by anyone about the cut music. The music was mentioned twice. The first time was between MJ’s NEW Life and Spidus Interruptus where Sam Raimi says how effective Danny Elfman’s music is. The second time is, ironically, when we see Spidey’s close-up swing after the planetarium gala where Tobey Maguire mentons how the music matches the mood but isn’t distracting (similar to what he said on the first Spider-Man DVD). As he said this, I could only have the original Danny Elfman piece for that scene, found on the second disc, playing in my head. By the way, that piece is now stuck in my head.
I also took another look at the end credits and looked at Young’s credit. It says “Demonstration” and “Runaway Train” written and produced by Christoper Young and Danny Elfman. I’m guessing that Danny’s writing credit belongs to the fact that Young built upon earlier established themes, but wouldn’t it be something if Danny worked with Young on it a bit?
I’m not sure that all of Young’s track was unoriginal. Yes, it was from Hellraiser 2, but it did incorporate Doc Ock’s theme. But…isn’t this thread about the exclusive MIB trailer music?
That one I thought about but I’m not sure about something. If the previous score was not nominated for an Oscar, is it still eligible? For instance with the Lord of the Rings, if the Fellowship of the Ring had not been nominated, would Two Towers have been eligible? (Frankly I thought Williams’s Harry Potter should have won that year, but the Return of the King definitely deserved the Oscar.)
Awww. Well, I learned about it here, but I’ve got an explanation.
1: It’s a sequel, and unless it’s Lord of the Rings, it’s not anywhere close to being in the running.
2: It’s a summer blockbuster, and though an incredible movie, it’s not exactly what he Academy loves. Add a few actors who do nothing but cry during the entire movie and about an hour of boringness and there might be more of a chance.
3: Half of the music he wrote was not in the movie itself.
4: Additional composers were brought onto the project.
5: It’s a Danny Elfman score…I’ll just leave it at that.
Any word on other possible nominations for Spider-Man 2? Or any chance of the cut music from Spider-Man 2 being released?
Looks like Steve Jablonsky is scoring it. Hmm, he appears to be a Michael Bay man, and Michael Bay is producing that remake.
If you had to make sure it’s just a taste, it must be pretty exclusive. I can’t see why, because it’s clearly not anything new but rather an unheard part of the MIB score. At least I’ve never heard it before.
Say, can you exclusively get those unreleased cues from Spider-Man 2?
